Thread: RUC increases

Originally Posted by Brasso

I don't have a problem with RUC, but I have a problem with the unfair application of it.
All the waffle we hear about EV's is just that - waffle.
We urgently need to reduce the numbers of vehicles crawling over the planet like ants.
EV's have tyres, and tyres, with road marking paint, are a significant contributor to ocean microplastics.
We think tyres are just rubber, but are actually a plastic/rubber compound that finds it's way into the oceans from all roads/stromwater conduits, albeit inland or coastal.
Here is a sobering ASA science prediction;-
Quite soon now, all the ocean plastics by weight, will equal all the ocean fish by weight.
I say apply RUC to ALL vehicles, including private cars, to minimise unnecessary car use

and i say the only public transport you will see me use is an airbus or boeing!
i will drive my cars when i bloody well want and the greenies can go fornicate with themselves, pathetic socialist brainwashed little muppets

Unfortunately mate, but fortunately in the broader vision, we won't drive our vehicles "when we bloody well want" for too much longer.
Antarctic deep core drilling next summer is going to turn our lives upside down if the predicted answers become a reality (strong possibility), because it will be empirical proof that global warming is caused by homo sapiens. Yep, that's you and me mate.
You only have to see what's happening with those floods up north.
It was predicted.
Sadly, that old adage, "he who doesn't learn from experience is doomed to repeat it" is very true.
The global science community have been trying to talk to us for decades, but there are four major problems;-
1) We don't listen
2) We don't listen
3) We don't listen
4) We drive our vehicles "whenever we bloody want".
Meanwhile, keep the powder dry mate.

Originally Posted by Brasso

Unfortunately mate, but fortunately in the broader vision, we won't drive our vehicles "when we bloody well want" for too much longer.
Antarctic deep core drilling next summer is going to turn our lives upside down if the predicted answers become a reality (strong possibility), because it will be empirical proof that global warming is caused by homo sapiens. Yep, that's you and me mate.
You only have to see what's happening with those floods up north.
It was predicted.
Sadly, that old adage, "he who doesn't learn from experience is doomed to repeat it" is very true.
The global science community have been trying to talk to us for decades, but there are four major problems;-
1) We don't listen
2) We don't listen
3) We don't listen
4) We drive our vehicles "whenever we bloody want".
Meanwhile, keep the powder dry mate.

Are you a hunter or target shooter? Maybe even go fishing? Please excuse me being suspicious of anyone with a low post count baiting those who disagree with a probable troll position.

Just a bit of stick and humour, but I guess it went over your head.
Yes, shot my first red deer in 1951, and spent a lifetime hunting ever since. Still hunting at age 84, but in easy country now.
You are correct about low post count, and might not have noticed I am brand spanking new here, with my first post only 2 days ago.
I see you are from Napier.
I could go on ad nauseum about hunting out of the old Boyds hut, in the headwaters of the Ngauroro up your way in the early 60's
I mean the lovely old malthoid hut with dirt floor, not the flash lodge that's evidently there today.
And Howletts hut up the Tukituki, behind Ongaonga.
Happy to discuss, but should you accuse me of being a duck hunter, I'll simply say I'm not old enough to be a duck hunter

Originally Posted by Brasso

It was predicted.

No it wasn't. First it was going to get really hot, by 2000 the entire world was going to be a desert. Then the world was going to freeze... now they really have no idea: hence the term "Climate Change".

As for the floods up north, they have been occurring there as long as there has been written history in New Zealand.

Originally Posted by Brasso

Unfortunately mate, but fortunately in the broader vision, we won't drive our vehicles "when we bloody well want" for too much longer.
Antarctic deep core drilling next summer is going to turn our lives upside down if the predicted answers become a reality (strong possibility), because it will be empirical proof that global warming is caused by homo sapiens. Yep, that's you and me mate.
You only have to see what's happening with those floods up north.
It was predicted.
Sadly, that old adage, "he who doesn't learn from experience is doomed to repeat it" is very true.
The global science community have been trying to talk to us for decades, but there are four major problems;-
1) We don't listen
2) We don't listen
3) We don't listen
4) We drive our vehicles "whenever we bloody want".
Meanwhile, keep the powder dry mate.

....So the 3 km deep Artic Ice cores drilled by SEN in the 1990s (SEN, Scientists without narratives) that showed that the late 1800's was the coldest time in the last 10'000 years, so that any rise in temperature since 'records began' is pretty much to be expected. 3.5 ish degrees colder.

Anywho, there is simply NO technology yet that can replace what diesel does for us, so those that desire us to stop using the stuff must be willing for civilisation to return to the middle ages. And I think you will find that the vast majority of people, once they look under the hood and understand that most every moving thing in their lives, moves because of diesel. Be that transport, agriculture, forestry, fishing, food to your supermarket, electricity etc etc.

I agree with you on diesel, particularly modern DPF systems.
What I actually said, is that we need to reduce the vehicle density. I did not target diesel or any other propulsion.
In fact, EV's are 2000 times more polluting than IC engine exhausts, due to particulates from tyres (not exclusive to EV's of course).
I marvel at how you can run your finger around the inside of a Toyota Hiace DPF tailpipe that has done 200 thousand kilometres, and get no soot at all. Shine a torch up there, and all you see is bright shiny steel as if the pipe was brand new.
Particulates are just as bad as CO2, especially from tyres, because all stormwater albeit inland or coastal, ends up in the ocean.
Yes, the cores at Vic Uni in wellington are still ambiguous, but next summer if all goes well, the much deeper cores will produce empirical data that will be very difficult to argue against.
And yes, you are right about the floods being historical, but what's no longer historical is the frequency