Thread: Speed Cameras

Had a letter informing me my vehicle was photographed doing 55 kph in a 50 kph.

I advised the sender I was not present and did not know who was driving and requested the camera evidence to identify the driver.

Received the camera evidence I could not even see any individual in the vehicle at all despite the photo being taken from front in the dark.

I advised I could not state for sure who was driving and I refused to lie and pay $30.00 and have this infringement recorded against me.

I did ascertain my partner and her daughter were possibly in this area at the time of the infringement coming from Dunedin to the Christchurch area but because they shared the driving and were unfamiliar with the road and surroundings and were not aware of any speed cameras until weeks later I could not state who was driving at the time of the infringement.

I requested a police officer attend my home to investigate this infringement to no avail.

I eventually completed the declaration when I was next in town advising the names of who allegedly were possibly driving at that time which seemed problematic in the police office as I stated two names.

I received a reminder to pay the infringement so I contacted the sender who advised I should ignore the reminder as they will hold the first of the two people I mentioned on the declaration responsible.

I asked how she knew this one of the two people was responsible, no real response I asked should this person also lie to facilitate paying you $30.00.

I then asked who managed her department she refused to say or to provide guidance where an individual may work away from home and his vehicles are legally available to friends and family other than apparently I should have a log to be filled in by every user of my personal vehicles I suggested she provide evidence and identify the driver a photo would help.

I again asked her how I can protect myself from such infringement's and an individual not filling out a log to legally use my vehicle when she cant identify the driver.

Phone call was terminated to difficult I imagine.

Anyone else having these difficulty's, are these speed cameras fit for purpose.

Sounds like your the difficult one ha ha

Originally Posted by PerazziSC3

Sounds like your the difficult one ha ha

Sounds like you get the money, Its a principle look it up in a dictionary.

Does your family use your vehicles pray tell how do you deal with these situations.

What do you think happens with the infringements lets not be difficult just pay a few years later something happens and you have multiple speeding infringements recorded in your name suddenly you say it was not me oh then why did you pay.

But I am a fit and proper person, really you have multiple speeding infringements you appear careless to me.

But I did not do it, I just didn't want to be difficult.

Like the police station said its only $30.00

Originally Posted by PerazziSC3

Sounds like your the difficult one ha ha

Okay not being difficult how do you know who's driving your vehicles legally when your not around and get sent a letter weeks later please enlighten me perhaps one of your likes may assist you?

Speeding is speeding no complaint from me I have been stopped in the middle of nowhere only me and the hidden cop for kilometres but if it wasn't me why should I lie taking the responsibility and having something I did not do recorded against me.

Originally Posted by xtightg

Okay not being difficult how do you know who's driving your vehicles legally when your not around and get sent a letter weeks later please enlighten me perhaps one of your likes may assist you?

Speeding is speeding no complaint from me I have been stopped in the middle of nowhere only me and the hidden cop for kilometres but if it wasn't me why should I lie taking the responsibility and having something I did not do recorded against me.

I don't give my car out willy nilly it's not rocket science to work out who is driving it. If you don't want to have the $30 ticket against your name well then get your mrs to take it on the chin. Surely someone was in charge of the car and at least one of you can take it like an adult. God.

If it comes back to a person I would say they need a better picture. However, I would of thought all responsibility came back to the owner, in that case your screwed.

Originally Posted by bully

If it comes back to a person I would say they need a better picture. However, I would of thought all responsibility came back to the owner, in that case your screwed.

I agree if a photo is used it should identify the individual no argument the person responsible takes the rap and pays up more importantly the infringement is recorded against the individual committing the crime.

Should these type of cameras be used after dark indeed are they certified for use outwith certain lighting parameters ?

I must have missed something, I thought speed cameras weren't prosecuting the drivers (demerit points) as the photos aren't able to show who was driving (as in this example) I think if the police can't prove who was driving then they can't pin in on an individual, knowing only $30 but what happens if you drive the length of the country and pick up half a dozen and your doing 60 in 50 zones... All of a sudden it adds up.

Originally Posted by 223nut

I must have missed something, I thought speed cameras weren't prosecuting the drivers (demerit points) as the photos aren't able to show who was driving (as in this example) I think if the police can't prove who was driving then they can't pin in on an individual, knowing only $30 but what happens if you drive the length of the country and pick up half a dozen and your doing 60 in 50 zones... All of a sudden it adds up.

if you are doing 60 in a 50 zone regularly you need your nuts removed with a blunt knife,the speed is clearly posted...dont like it??? ride a plurry pushbike....
cruise control is a wonderful tool...set and forget on open road...I even use it in town.....so easy to do and you dont need to worry you going too fast,touch brakes you slow down,re click and back to 48kms-89kms-98kms depending on zone. but Im biased as I drive for a living and see the results of crap driving all the time.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

if you are doing 60 in a 50 zone regularly you need your nuts removed with a blunt knife,the speed is clearly posted...dont like it??? ride a plurry pushbike....
cruise control is a wonderful tool...set and forget on open road...I even use it in town.....so easy to do and you dont need to worry you going too fast,touch brakes you slow down,re click and back to 48kms-89kms-98kms depending on zone. but Im biased as I drive for a living and see the results of crap driving all the time.

60 deserves a ticket for sure, but sometimes it creeps up especially down a hill etc, and we dont all have cruise control.

Originally Posted by 40mm

60 deserves a ticket for sure, but sometimes it creeps up especially down a hill etc, and we dont all have cruise control.

Even with cruise control on, cars will still go over the limit by up to 15km. And will then stay at that speed even though the limit is set at 50.

Originally Posted by jim160

Even with cruise control on, cars will still go over the limit by up to 15km. And will then stay at that speed even though the limit is set at 50.

I didnt know that. seems a waste of time having cruise then??

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

if you are doing 60 in a 50 zone regularly you need your nuts removed with a blunt knife,the speed is clearly posted...dont like it??? ride a plurry pushbike....
cruise control is a wonderful tool...set and forget on open road...I even use it in town.....so easy to do and you dont need to worry you going too fast,touch brakes you slow down,re click and back to 48kms-89kms-98kms depending on zone. but Im biased as I drive for a living and see the results of crap driving all the time.

How about parking a camera on the side of the Motorway.? Two lanes of southbound traffic heading into chch last week and there was a SPEED camera van illegally parked on the grass beside the motorway pointed at those lanes......Cos you know the motorway is such a death trap that they have to build more!!!!!!! All they want is money....What part of a motorway is safety? And what part is revenue gathering...?

Good luck with that...
They'll send it straight to Baycorp for recovery, so for a $30 fine to blow out to heaps more doesn't take much.
Easier to pay the $30 and spank the mrs

Originally Posted by cambo

Good luck with that...
They'll send it straight to Baycorp for recovery, so for a $30 fine to blow out to heaps more doesn't take much.
Easier to pay the $30 and spank the mrs

I was under the impression I could have a court date, present all the documented correspondence.

Prove It could not have been me nor was I aware of who legally had access to my vehicles and were driving them at any time.

If I lied to make it go away is that not illegal.

Claim loss of earnings and expenses I am self employed well qualified and well paid.

In a perfect world and as I previously stated its a principle.