Thread: Toyota announced big Landcruiser spec change & price drops in USA

Originally Posted by MSL

I’m very happy with mine compared to my 2014 hilux. Way more efficient when towing and or deck loaded.


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Yeah, we've got a 2018 cruiser and a 2018 hilux, the hilux went to dannevirke and back today at 9.7L/100km the cruiser came back from taupo yesterday towing the boat and it says 13.9L/100km so I suspect the hilux would use a lot more doing the same.


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Originally Posted by BRADS

Yeah, we've got a 2018 cruiser and a 2018 hilux, the hilux went to dannevirke and back today at 9.7L/100km the cruiser came back from taupo yesterday towing the boat and it says 13.9L/100km so I suspect the hilux would use a lot more doing the same.

Not necessarily. 13-14L/100km is about par for the I4 1GD-FTV towing something like a decent sized boat or camper trailer. There's heaps of tests on YT with that engine in Hilux and Prado, lots of guys in Aus. The Hilux I drive regularly towing a 5m tandem trailer with a CamAm Defender, full dip tank, pump, hoses, dead sheep etc shows around 13-14L/100km on rough, steep hill country unsealed roads, going relatively slowly (prob 70km/h max) with 4WD engaged.

It's towing caravans into a head wind that the 1GD-FTV will struggle with. The long distance tests in Aus have it on a par with the V8 single turbo ute, but it ain't pretty for either of them.

What has been demonstrated again and again is the effect of accessories on fuel consumption - roof racks & roof mounted gear, bull bars, bigger tyres than stock, all the rest of the fruit. There's a significant consumption penalty to be paid if you run all the fruit as I do, out of necessity.

Originally Posted by Flyblown

Not necessarily. 13-14L/100km is about par for the I4 1GD-FTV towing something like a decent sized boat or camper trailer. There's heaps of tests on YT with that engine in Hilux and Prado, lots of guys in Aus. The Hilux I drive regularly towing a 5m tandem trailer with a CamAm Defender, full dip tank, pump, hoses, dead sheep etc shows around 13-14L/100km on rough, steep hill country unsealed roads, going relatively slowly (prob 70km/h max) with 4WD engaged.

It's towing caravans into a head wind that the 1GD-FTV will struggle with. The long distance tests in Aus have it on a par with the V8 single turbo ute, but it ain't pretty for either of them.

What has been demonstrated again and again is the effect of accessories on fuel consumption - roof racks & roof mounted gear, bull bars, bigger tyres than stock, all the rest of the fruit. There's a significant consumption penalty to be paid if you run all the fruit as I do, out of necessity.

Yep, the same with big boats. Parachutes basically, and any 4cyl engine is ugly in this application. Basically in marine engine terms you are operating the engine at 100% duty cycle, geared down and near full throttle just to overcome the wind resistance of the thing behind ya. The other problem with boats in the loading of a boat on a trailer is fairly ugly and often is marginal for weight distribution especially with big outboard or inboard engines. Where it shows worst is starting of having to turn, like on a T intersection onto a main road where you need to roll with a lot of power to get moving. Often it's a balancing act with enough power to get moving vs spinning up at the rear and not actually going anywhere. It's something that the 6cyl Landcrabs and Patrols, and the V8 Landcruiser do better with as there are more power strokes per rotation of the crankshaft which minimises the load/unload cyclic forces on the crankshaft. The 5cyl Ranger is one of the better options in terms of cost vs availability vs reliability but from my experience is still a little marginal in this application.

Originally Posted by Flyblown

Not necessarily. 13-14L/100km is about par for the I4 1GD-FTV towing something like a decent sized boat or camper trailer. There's heaps of tests on YT with that engine in Hilux and Prado, lots of guys in Aus. The Hilux I drive regularly towing a 5m tandem trailer with a CamAm Defender, full dip tank, pump, hoses, dead sheep etc shows around 13-14L/100km on rough, steep hill country unsealed roads, going relatively slowly (prob 70km/h max) with 4WD engaged.

It's towing caravans into a head wind that the 1GD-FTV will struggle with. The long distance tests in Aus have it on a par with the V8 single turbo ute, but it ain't pretty for either of them.

What has been demonstrated again and again is the effect of accessories on fuel consumption - roof racks & roof mounted gear, bull bars, bigger tyres than stock, all the rest of the fruit. There's a significant consumption penalty to be paid if you run all the fruit as I do, out of necessity.

Agree.

To put our 10.9L/100km fuel consumption into perspective, the Patrol is completely cleanskin with standard highway tyres on. The boat and trailer combined weigh 500kg, and all the camping gear fitted in the boat, so we could rid ourselves of the roof rack. The boat itself wears a cover, making it a reasonably slippery towed item.

Still not bad for a 27 year old truck with an unopened engine and drivetrain.