Thread: Toyota LSDs

are they all the same? i.e. not very good?


is it worth grabbing a used LSD head for 300 bucks to replace my open rear diff

$300 is cheap

Strip it, check and reassemble with tougher springs

Run proper LSD diff oil or it will slip like a non LSD diff

I think they're only ok. Nissans are better. Just grab a locker for not much more

You can rebuild them and they will still be crap

Leave the rear alone just throw an air locker in the front

New they are pretty good but within a 100tho they are pretty loose usually.
Easy enough to shim one up tho.

I have a hilux lsd lieing around....it was out of a 3lt but bearing journals have been machiened down to suit a 3l ln 106 lux.
I had it in the front so its loose but can be shimmed up if it is of use to you.

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Don't do it. They are almost useless off road. I brought my 40 series on the basis it had one. Useless so I pulled it apart, sandblasted the clutch plates and put in a shim. Still useless. Paid $500 to get it professionally rebuilt by a bloke who claimed to know what he was doing. Still useless. Put an auto locker in the back (not useless) and put the lsd in the front. Still useless but now it makes the steering heavy when 4wd is engaged.

If it's still in a vehicle then jack up one read wheel and spin it. If you can spin it then it's useless.

Basically they need torque to lock up at all and they never fully lock up. If you are stuck in a mud hole then there won't be enough torque to lock it up enough for it to matter. The toyota one is worse than the nissan one.

Buy an air locker if you have enough money or a factory locker from a wrecker. If you can handle the weird road driving characteristics then buy a auto locker.

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Yip you are right the Toyota LSD diffs don't stay LSD for long. Better to just chuck in an auto locker. My old hilux went throught two rear diffs none of which stayed LSD for long.

Ok will get a Harrop-Eaton E locker when I can be bothered spending money on it and pulling the rear axle ie around 2018

Originally Posted by Mauser308

Those little e-lockers look the bisso, electric locking with just a solenoid to the diff looks like a major step forwards - no pissing around with stupid mini compressors that last 5mins...

Factory options on toyotas.....very rare but you can get a factory elec rear locker in a 106 hilux even.
they do play up mainly due to not being used and/or water ingress.

quite common to upgrade the older cruisers with 80 series live axles to get disk brakes all round and locking diffs front and rear tho many ditch the elec and go manual cable operation

Originally Posted by Tussock

Lack of use

There is a pervading theory in Ethiopia if you engage anything, 4x4, lockers, absolutely anything it breaks instantly so never ever use it.

This ia because none have ever been engaged from factory so the theory is sound.

Which is weird, you would think in a place like that they would be permanantly in 4wd difflocked or may as well have a Corrola

Originally Posted by Tussock

A Landcruiser is a large heavy Corrola. If it gets stuck you have the 25 people in,on or around the vehicle push. If there are no people, no water, no diesel and no traction, you stand there and look sad.

Worst is the refusal to use low ratio on even the roughest tracks.

I refused outright to play the class game and often sat in the back of the troopies. Not cool.

Best trucks get the best drivers and they sent in a 200 series for a fancy consultant. Now that was a cool Landcruiser.

I guess you truly cant help stupid.

The planet is overpopulated it is time to remove the guards/rails/signs and let nature take its course.

Originally Posted by Tussock

This is ready mix quick set racism. Affects 99% of people who go there.
I never had it and with those guys I got things done that would be impossible with pasty feeble whitees.

You except a little basic confusion. Grandad is 40 and will die at 42 before attaining or transferring wisdom, they never went to school, no country in history wrote instructions in amharic, or anything else worth readig, etc etc.

But they have some advantages. The above is not stupidity. You experience discomfort and change your behavior. They don't know what comfort is. Never heard of it.

Not changing down when advised to for the sake of the vehicle is stupid but it was actually the rest of the world I was referring to with removing the guards.

I hate everyone equally.

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Originally Posted by Tussock

Anothe good one was the choke on small motors. Trying to explain it wss only for starting was amusing. Won't start without choke means choke is essential to function:

Another was the role an air filter plays.

Or that the intake of a pump should not lie on the bottom and suction a huge hole till the impellers are gone.

Hahahahahahahahahah oh that brings back a few memories