G’day team, looking at getting either one of these and checking peoples experiences and views on them! Let me know ya thoughts!
Thanks!
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G’day team, looking at getting either one of these and checking peoples experiences and views on them! Let me know ya thoughts!
Thanks!
What for, where and when ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxie boy
do you sleep in sleeping bag with head inside the hoodie with drawstring drawn??? are you claustrophobic???
do you roll around in your sleep much???
unless your sleeping only in nice weather or under trees i suggest a tent. or lighter tarp. bivi bags tend to collect a lot of moisture
I almost exclusively use a tarp and Bivvy bag when solo. Doesn't save much weight vs my tent (a cuben fibre thing). But can setup anywhere i can lie down.
Just a tarp i find is a bit average if it actually rains as any wind means you end up with a wet bag. Or even strong winds can flap the fly and shake condensation on to you.
A bivvy bag on its own is no good if it rains as if you actually breath into it you end up wet.
A tarp and bivvy bag where your head in out of the bag is the best combination and i actually have less condensation issues than a tent as the bag is protected from the flys condensation.
Too warm a bag can also cause bivvy bag condensation too.
This is my summer setup
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Looks good Stocky. What bivvy bag are you running? Have a nz army one which weighs 1kg from memory. Bomb proof but heavy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stocky
An Outdoor research helium without the pole as if you use it you end up breathing into it and getting more condensation. Mines been perfect I just leave my pad and sleeping bag inside and stuff it into my pack. Makes for a camp quick setup. Would love to figure a way to get a lighter bivvy sack but cantbseem to find anything lighter and still actually waterproof. Quilt on it's way should cut down a bit of weight though.Quote:
Originally Posted by GSP HUNTER
Bivy tents are crap. Condensate then freeze!
The amount of times I woke up either soaking wet or frozen was stupid.
Have hunted a lot with a fly when I know the weather is ok. Way better
I've only tried this twice now. Handles condensation fine off the tarp. Not tried in rain yet.
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Bush east coast north island and or tops or close to tops round the Hunter River, around April, obviously got to be cautious with conditions.
Depends how cold it is, but if she’s chilly then yep. Head in sleeping back. Nah not claustrophobic at all. And roll a little bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
Twin needle are doing tarps again if that’s of any interest to you
I have one of these, I find my down bag get quire damp on the outside from using it. It may be due t the bag filling the cover too much? No air movement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ned
Head in sleeping bag is pretty much a no go with a bivvy bag as you will end up soaked from condensation. Up the hunter in April can be pretty bloody cold. I'd use my setup but makes use I have a good bag and insulated matt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxie boy
Ive tried bivvy bag and small early bivy tent and ended up sleeping with top half of body out in open..was just too cramed for my.... simple fly set up and also heavy old NZ Army sleeping bag cover does what I need it too..its amazing just how much warmer I sleep with the cover over top of bag.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxie boy
Awesome as. Yeah she wasn’t too bad last April. But got a mate who had one of those Nz army bivvys and loves it. Sounds like that and tarp way to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
Where did ya manage to find one of them? Wouldn’t mind having a look!Quote:
Originally Posted by GSP HUNTER
I have one these to but time I get sleeping pad on the inside ( as I fine I just side off mat if on outside) & sleeping bag that it to tight & I'm only a small guy in & it very easy to put holes in it the dog did by walking on it other than that it did work good under a fly iv gone with the Outdoor research helium bivvy bag to & depending on weather if I use a tiny fly if it going be good but if looking avg I'll use a bigger flyQuote:
Originally Posted by Ned
I think an Aussie style 'swag' is the best system but they are too big and heavy for anything except beside the truck camping. so making a 'swag' with the sleeping bag inside the bivy bag and a fly overtop like Stocky has done is probably the best solution. I use a lightweight reflective survival blanket as the fly after putting anchor points on it
Hi mate. Picked up from a mate years back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxie boy
Made by the mac pac people. Serioysly slept in a thunderstorm in a puddle and came out toasty dry.
Good gear. Life saving in real crap and nasty conditions.
There's one on TM at present - $180 currently so not cheap. I saw this listing you may be interested in: Macpac Bivy bag https://www.trademe.co.nz/3918582259Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxie boy
Cheers Joel, a mate has one of these and reckons they’re awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoelA
They are good. But I would put a fly over it as well. So you can cook a feed out of the rain.
Flies weigh next to nothing and can save alot of misery for such a light piece of kit.
I have one of the NZDF bivy bags in khaki. Good bit of kit. I have only used it once tho, I tend to go for the solo tent instead. Might be a go with a light fly though.
Found a NZDF bivvy on trade me! Going for that and a fly! Thanks for all the info team. Much appreciated.
Nothing wrong with a nzdf biv, but having a 1kg waterproof bivy under an allready waterproof tarp seems a bit redundant to me and at that weight might as well just get a tent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxie boy
You really only need something that has enough cover to keep the bugs off and keep the splash back off your bag.
There are a heap of bivys around designed to be used in unison with a tarp. Borah gear bivy is what I use but there are heaps of similar options around.
I have a macpac bush cocoon that I love, can chuck the sleeping bag and mat in it, then stuff it in the bags compression sack. If the weather's fine then that's all I need.
Throw in a poncho, which always lives in my pack, and there's your fly for if the rain comes in.
Best thing about it is it has a little bug mesh in it, that's the only thing I can't deal with fly tenting, the bloody sandflies!
