Thread: Clothing GST

Originally Posted by Maca49

You have to pay you fcuken tax or I wont get my pension FFS its only fair!!

I won't be getting a pension when I get to that age full stop.
Feel privileged you have a chance of one.

Originally Posted by Jexla

I won't be getting a pension when I get to that age full stop.
Feel privileged you have a chance of one.

Yep I paid for mine, no guilt this end!

Originally Posted by Maca49

Yep I paid for mine, no guilt this end!

And we are paying now, without any expectations that we will get ours when we age.

The couple of generations that got a govt pension are very lucky in the lottery of birth time in this regard. Anyone who can do simple math can see that the current system can't work going fwd as the working tax payers (and keep in mind that a huge percent of workers get more in benefits than they pay) v non workers (dole,pension etc) dynamic is rapidly getting skewed in an unsustainable direction with all projections saying it's going to get worse.
The way that a lot of current and soon to be pension receivers seem to both not give a shit and joke about it really rubs those younger up the wrong way. The I got mine so I don't care attitude so often displayed is disgusting and Maca49 you are so often guilty of it on this forum, even if you don't realize your doing it.

Bloody bastards. I've just finished a battle with customs. On this occasion I won though. I to have been bringing in Kuiu and boots the last few months with no hassles at all. Anyway this month I won a Kuiu competition and this week I get a letter saying I have to pay tax, duties, levies etc etc. I had to convince them it was a prize and I didn't buy it so should not pay the fees.
I noticed on the bill there were things like "Bio-security levy" and then "GST on bio security levy". Why should you pay tax on a levy? Isn't a levy a tax of sorts anyway? is bloody well not a good or service that's for sure!!

Originally Posted by res

And we are paying now, without any expectations that we will get ours when we age.

The couple of generations that got a govt pension are very lucky in the lottery of birth time in this regard. Anyone who can do simple math can see that the current system can't work going fwd as the working tax payers (and keep in mind that a huge percent of workers get more in benefits than they pay) v non workers (dole,pension etc) dynamic is rapidly getting skewed in an unsustainable direction with all projections saying it's going to get worse.
The way that a lot of current and soon to be pension receivers seem to both not give a shit and joke about it really rubs those younger up the wrong way. The I got mine so I don't care attitude so often displayed is disgusting and Maca49 you are so often guilty of it on this forum, even if you don't realize your doing it.

Us pensioners paid in all our working lives, if they can't afford to pay us they can't afford to pay "working for families", people to sit at home, people to have kids they can't afford, and numerous other hand outs. Don't get me going on this subject, this forum is too good for this subject.

Originally Posted by tetawa

Us pensioners paid in all our working lives, if they can't afford to pay us they can't afford to pay "working for families", people to sit at home, people to have kids they can't afford, and numerous other hand outs. Don't get me going on this subject, this forum is too good for this subject.

But your getting back now, you paid for a much smaller pool of people than those now paying for you are paying for-and we don't have any realistic expectation of the next generation being able to do the same for us even if they wanted to.

You seem to be displaying the same blinkered view as Macka.

I do completely agree with the other points, they exasperate the problem

Originally Posted by tetawa

Us pensioners paid in all our working lives, if they can't afford to pay us they can't afford to pay "working for families", people to sit at home, people to have kids they can't afford, and numerous other hand outs. Don't get me going on this subject, this forum is too good for this subject.

Your should support families with kids as those kids are going to (hopefully) grow up to be taxpayers. Likewise you should support gubberment funding education because educated people get higher paid jobs and pay more tax.