Thread: Cooking systems - Light vs cost

Originally Posted by johnino

Bloody hell, I'm more confused after reading this thread. Good though. Think I'll get one of those Toaks cups and a Propane Refill Adapter. Good work boys.

I would recommend it. Just think carefully about what diameter put you go to as it will dictate what gas canister you can make fit. I choose the smaller diameter so the smallest gas canisters fit snug. One of these last 3 days so is ample for the vast majority of trips. No point in carrying around the bigger gas canister imo as that is where the majority of weight/size comes from

I got a 750ml. Think it'll be right size.

I'm going to try one of these. Want something close enough in size for the gas can and enough room for 500ml with boiling room.

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I've never been too worried about putting a gas canister inside the pot, I usually put food in the pot instead.

I see you can get a jetboil knock-off from aliexpress now:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/FireM...426326771.html

Or just a pot with flux-ring / heat-exchanger:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fire-...421395030.html

Originally Posted by stretch

I see you can get a jetboil knock-off from aliexpress now:

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Or just a pot with flux-ring / heat-exchanger:

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And only 600 grams plus the gas canister (230 grams)

And they are shit!


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Originally Posted by BRADS

And they are shit!


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Glad I didn't get one today then! Went with the 25g burner +80g 650ml Toaks Titanium pot option. Should be here by Xmas.

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Originally Posted by BRADS

And they are shit!


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In general or just that one in particular?

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

In general or just that one in particular?

A guy at a hut with us recently had one and yeah na I'll stick to my Jet boil.


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Originally Posted by BRADS

A guy at a hut with us recently had one and yeah na I'll stick to my Jet boil.


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What were the issues?

I'm surprised there aren't more people making cheap versions of the heat sink pot - how much difference do they make compared to a normal pot?

Originally Posted by GravelBen

I'm surprised there aren't more people making cheap versions of the heat sink pot - how much difference do they make compared to a normal pot?

My understanding is that the slight increase in weight added by the heat sink is offset by less fuel used, but that you only break even a few days into a trip. You're carrying the gas anyway, so you only see a benefit in using a heat-exchanger pot if your trip is of long enough duration that the fuel efficiency means you can get by with one gas canister rather that having to lug two.

Or something like that...

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Originally Posted by stretch

My understanding is that the slight increase in weight added by the heat sink is offset by less fuel used, but that you only break even a few days into a trip. You're carrying the gas anyway, so you only see a benefit in using a heat-exchanger pot if your trip is of long enough duration that the fuel efficiency means you can get by with one gas canister rather that having to lug two.

Or something like that...

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Or if its cold and you struggle to heat let alone boil water at altitude.
At least that was the difference between mine and a MSR windboiler

Originally Posted by stretch

My understanding is that the slight increase in weight added by the heat sink is offset by less fuel used, but that you only break even a few days into a trip. You're carrying the gas anyway, so you only see a benefit in using a heat-exchanger pot if your trip is of long enough duration that the fuel efficiency means you can get by with one gas canister rather that having to lug two.

Or something like that...

Makes sense.

Until this year I used a primus omnifuel on white spirits, was great when I was doing cold mountain trips etc. The pump packed up on that and the last few trips I've used the aliexpress ti gas cooker and saved weight. But have a 10+ day trip into the Olivines planned over summer so improving efficiency of whichever cooker we use will be worthwhile. That aliexpress heat exchange pot is only 30g more than the smaller of my current pots so probably worth a shot at that price.