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    Now slightly confused.
    Just checking so I have on my list all the things I need to keep a lookout for. A good rain jacket (have), a marino and or polyprop base layer (have a kathamndu corespun marino which should do hopefully).
    But then should I get both the marino jacket as per the link also the downs Jacket, and maybe a Fast hunt top or equivalent?
    Was initially thinking the down jacket would mean I'd need neither the Fast hunt or marino one.

    Ta for your input, still a noob on hunting/hiking

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    For general Canterbury conditions I find the following works for me, pretty simple

    Summer
    1. Merino base layer for day and walking
    2. Merino base layer + Fleece for evening and glassing
    3. Merino base layer + Fleece + Rain jacket for glassing in the wind and rain

    Shoulder seasons and winter
    1. Merino base layer for climbing
    2. Merino base layer + Fleece for walking
    3. Merino base layer + Lightweight puffer + Fleece for evening and glassing
    4. Merino base layer + Lightweight puffer + Fleece + Rain jacket for evening and glassing in wind and rain

    I use
    Merino base layer: Kuiu short sleeve
    Fleece: Some cheap hunting and fishing thing, its not real thick or heavy
    Puffer: macpac uberlight wit hthe hood
    Rain jacket: Stoney Creek Glasnock

    Dont bother with an expensive fleece or lightweight puffer, it will just get gross after a few successful hunts

    I go for a big boy puffer jacket if doing Alpine mid winter stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruntyHunt View Post
    For general Canterbury conditions I find the following works for me, pretty simple

    Summer
    1. Merino base layer for day and walking
    2. Merino base layer + Fleece for evening and glassing
    3. Merino base layer + Fleece + Rain jacket for glassing in the wind and rain



    Shoulder seasons and winter
    1. Merino base layer for climbing
    2. Merino base layer + Fleece for walking
    3. Merino base layer + Lightweight puffer + Fleece for evening and glassing
    4. Merino base layer + Lightweight puffer + Fleece + Rain jacket for evening and glassing in wind and rain

    I use
    Merino base layer: Kuiu short sleeve
    Fleece: Some cheap hunting and fishing thing, its not real thick or heavy
    Puffer: macpac uberlight wit hthe hood
    Rain jacket: Stoney Creek Glasnock

    Dont bother with an expensive fleece or lightweight puffer, it will just get gross after a few successful hunts

    I go for a big boy puffer jacket if doing Alpine mid winter stuff
    Agree mostly with above but replace fleece with a nylon type thin breathable long sleeve top ie Stoney creek fasthunt, Earth Sea Sky etc. These are cooler in summer i find wear better and save getting sunburnt on the tops as i never remember sunblock. Fleece is an ok compromise if you already have it but i find a long sleeve fleece top way to hot for climbing. biggest advantage of fleece is it is cheap.

    Disagree on lightweight puffer. Buy a good one with high loft down as they aren't that expensive $225 will get you top of the line if you can weight for a macpac sale. it makes them way warmer. I dont fancy leaving down jackets on the outside layer a they get torn easily so one that can be layered is great. I dont wear it if (i am covered in undried blood or am sweating) so doesnt get gross at all. Put its in a dry bag in you pack like all you base layers your not wearing should be and good to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhoppy View Post
    Now slightly confused.
    Just checking so I have on my list all the things I need to keep a lookout for. A good rain jacket (have), a marino and or polyprop base layer (have a kathamndu corespun marino which should do hopefully).
    But then should I get both the marino jacket as per the link also the downs Jacket, and maybe a Fast hunt top or equivalent?
    Was initially thinking the down jacket would mean I'd need neither the Fast hunt or marino one.

    Ta for your input, still a noob on hunting/hiking
    Down jackets are really not suitable for hunting/moving in. Best setup is the above.
    You have a merino, so that's your base layer sorted.

    Buy a midweight fleece mid layer. These are a practical and versatile layering product. Doesn't have to be a flash Harry one, plenty of economical options that work just fine. I have a hunters element one that I've had for years that was bought on slae for about 50 bucks. Good fleece. Some people go merino for this but personally as I wear it as an outer layer a lot, I much prefer a fleece. My flash Kuiu merino hoodie got holes in it first trip I wore it. Turns out merino doesn't like Bush lawyer

    Buy a puffy on one of macpacs sales. You can get one for less than 100 bucks. This will be your outer layer at camp or when sitting/glassing. Usually over your mid layer fleece.

    The only other layer is your rain shell which it sound like you have sorted.

    Don't get to caught up in what the yanks do, our hunting is very different here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick-D View Post
    Down jackets are really not suitable for hunting/moving in. Best setup is the above.
    You have a merino, so that's your base layer sorted.

    Buy a midweight fleece mid layer. These are a practical and versatile layering product. Doesn't have to be a flash Harry one, plenty of economical options that work just fine. I have a hunters element one that I've had for years that was bought on slae for about 50 bucks. Good fleece. Some people go merino for this but personally as I wear it as an outer layer a lot, I much prefer a fleece. My flash Kuiu merino hoodie got holes in it first trip I wore it. Turns out merino doesn't like Bush lawyer

    Buy a puffy on one of macpacs sales. You can get one for less than 100 bucks. This will be your outer layer at camp or when sitting/glassing. Usually over your mid layer fleece.

    The only other layer is your rain shell which it sound like you have sorted.

    Don't get to caught up in what the yanks do, our hunting is very different here.
    agree fully ^^;

 

 

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