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    Fake and Counterfeit Gear on TradeMe

    Just a quick warning...

    It seems the eBay scourge of knockoffs and fakes has reached TradeMe...

    In particular seller mikevr4 seems likely to be selling fake Cold Steel Code4 / Recon1 and Kubun knives

    The reason I say likely, is in a previous auction where he claimed to have bought the two knives from Guncity I asked the boxes had Guncity pricing stickers. He answered the question but then blacklisted me from all other auctions.

    Those knives sold, but now has multiple listings for the same knives again. Listed again at $1 reserve with just the standard blurb stolen from bladehq etc....plus colour options not available on the real deal.

    So just a heads up. If buying a cold Steel on TradeMe it might pay to check what's selling on AliExpress first...
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    A lot of people seem happy with what they bought from him.

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    Yes, those are knock off's. People can be happy with them and they may work well, but they're still knock off's being posed as something else.
    And I'd guess that the steel isn't correct.


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    I use the sellers feedback as a way to gauge the situation.

    Unfortunately its not very helpful in regards to quality of product being passed off.
    Comments like "nicely packaged" and "quick delivery" do not help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trapperjohn View Post
    I use the sellers feedback as a way to gauge the situation.

    Unfortunately its not very helpful in regards to quality of product being passed off.
    Comments like "nicely packaged" and "quick delivery" do not help.

    Likewise orchestrated positive comments from mates of the seller can instill the illusion the seller is a good honest person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnwolf View Post
    Likewise orchestrated positive comments from mates of the seller can instill the illusion the seller is a good honest person.
    Actually that is quite a hard thing to do as one has to complete auctions to have the ability to leave feedback.

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    Report the listings to trademe for ‘intellectual property’ concerns. They’re usually pretty good about pulling listings for knock-offs that can’t be verified.

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    Yep - 100% knockoff knives.
    At best these will have D2 steel blades, but you can pretty safely know they will not be S35VN.

    Normal thing, if it seems too good to be true...

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    Theres also been those minox scopes recently, i cant say 100% that theyre knockoffs but at half the price of retail shops and unusual details on the scopes themselves they do tend to raise suspicion

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    Quote Originally Posted by keengunNic View Post
    Theres also been those minox scopes recently, i cant say 100% that theyre knockoffs but at half the price of retail shops and unusual details on the scopes themselves they do tend to raise suspicion
    Are the scopes any good?...heaven forbid, they may be better than the originals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidGunn View Post
    Are the scopes any good?...heaven forbid, they may be better than the originals.
    Not sure mate, they may well be legit im not sure. They just look off to me. The email stating they're legitimate is different too

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidGunn View Post
    Are the scopes any good?...heaven forbid, they may be better than the originals.
    Possibly as least as good as. One question is relevant: do Minox get their scopes made in China? Some years ago I heard of a manufacturer of kitchen taps etc setting up a factory in China. Market soon got invaded by a flood of perfect counterfeits. Turns out that, as they set up their Chinese factory a copy of the factory was being set up in a nearby Chinese town. What you risk getting from outsourcing manufacture to a Ferengi who lives by "the rules of acquisition".

    I'm not anti Chinese, just anti the corrupt CCP which allow scum to operate with impunity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordite View Post
    Possibly as least as good as. One question is relevant: do Minox get their scopes made in China? Some years ago I heard of a manufacturer of kitchen taps etc setting up a factory in China. Market soon got invaded by a flood of perfect counterfeits. Turns out that, as they set up their Chinese factory a copy of the factory was being set up in a nearby Chinese town. What you risk getting from outsourcing manufacture to a Ferengi who lives by "the rules of acquisition".

    I'm not anti Chinese, just anti the corrupt CCP which allow scum to operate with impunity.
    some minox are 100% german, some are filipino assembled. havent seen a chinese one so far
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    Quote Originally Posted by gonetropo View Post
    some minox are 100% german, some are filipino assembled. havent seen a chinese one so far
    Genuine chineese models are the ZL - stick to ZA's i think they have SHOTT glass

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordite View Post
    Possibly as least as good as. One question is relevant: do Minox get their scopes made in China? Some years ago I heard of a manufacturer of kitchen taps etc setting up a factory in China. Market soon got invaded by a flood of perfect counterfeits. Turns out that, as they set up their Chinese factory a copy of the factory was being set up in a nearby Chinese town. What you risk getting from outsourcing manufacture to a Ferengi who lives by "the rules of acquisition".

    I'm not anti Chinese, just anti the corrupt CCP which allow scum to operate with impunity.
    Then there’s those who happily import shoddily made items from China and on sell them with no care about the safety etc of the item.

    IE there were shiny custom tilt steering columns imported to NZ from China for use in hot rods - only the universal in the column disintegrated under load, rather inconvenient to say the least...
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