Who else out there uses these,very handy I must say.Definitely worth throwing into the hunting kit.
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Who else out there uses these,very handy I must say.Definitely worth throwing into the hunting kit.
I have thought about it maybe it will cut down the room taken up in my pack when carting in a container of little lucifer fire starters.
Yep I carry one, used it in training, starts fires aslong as you have dry tinder around, also used it to light the gas cooker once when I had misplaced my lighter.
I see that the Army ration pack match containers now have a small flint rod installed at the base of the container, very handy should you run out of matches :cool:
I carry a lighter(and waterproofed matches) and inner tube. Inner tube is great but it pays to test it first,some of the new ones dont burn:wtfsmilie:
Also carry one of those emergency flint things with the magnesium on it aswell,have used it and it works but a lighter and inner tube is much quicker/easyer
Done properly the flint will ignite and you will have a good flame within seconds.As for dry tinder etc, cotton wool buds with a smidgen of vaseline ignite into a good flame with one strike of the knife and the wind has bugger all affect,you have got to stamp it out..Lets face it,a handfull of cotton buds will start a lot of fires,you only need one.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
I have carried a piece of inner tube for 45 plus years but man these fire sticks would have opened up a few eyes back then.Survival,definitely.
I have carried a fire stick for years but only as a back up to a lighter which as Vietnamcam says is certainly faster and more efficient to use. I have also carried a nugget can with cotton wool smeared with Vaseline in it for years but have just this morning taken it out of my day pack as I have never needed to use it. One thing I would say about the fire stick is that if you have one you. Should practise using it as the first time you really need it, you do not want to be going through a learning curve.
I bought one a while ago, but have never tried it out,
any tips on the best way to use it to get a fire started?
I carry two small plastic pill bottles filled with two readily available chemicals, that when mixed together burst into flame within a few seconds without the need for matches. Less than a teaspoon of the mix is needed to start the fire. Each chemical on it's own is stable and so long as they are stored away from each other in your pack/day bag there is no danger. There is no way I would carry firelighters of a kerosine base as if they taint your food stuff then you are in for a nightmare trip.
First up you are going to need some tinder. If you are practicing at home then it is most easy to either use some lint from out of a clothes dryer or some cotton wool smeared with Vaseline (both of which will catch a spark very quickly). To start a fire, place the fire stick in close proximity to the tinder and using the striker (which are included with many fire sticks) or a knife, solidly stroke the fire stick in a downward (away from you) direction such that a shower of sparks lands in and on the tinder. With a really easy catching tinder like the two above you will likely get it to catch straight away but the thing is that if it doesn't you simply keep repeating the action.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF
Yeah thats good advise about learning how to use one first there Rushy.They are new to me but will sure as hell have one for a back up now.New toys for old boys as the saying goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
PS I'd leave that nugget tin on board mate,eh
Yeh you can almost guarantee that that old bastard Murphy that makes those stupid law's will make certain that I have reason to need the bloody thing. Although the survivalist in me always takes opportunity to reinforce skills when I can and I often will use the inner dry dead fronds of punga as tinder (also eat every bloody huhu that I find as I have been eating them since I was a young fella and consider them a delicacy). Been known to freak a few hunt buddies out when I go feral and rip into rotten log.Quote:
Originally Posted by doinit
I am sure that most of us use a lighter as our primary fire lighting tool, but as a "survival" accessory you cant go past the these little puppies, you can get them wet and best of all they can be left in the survival kit for years to come and not have to worry about the gas in the lighter vanishing (yes they do become gasless over time even if they are left unused)
A few years ago my brother and I took his then 12yo boy for a hunt/camp down Clements Mill Road.
We had a go at lighting a fire with his fire starter and took a bit to find the right material to get it started.
Not something I would look forward to doing if suffering the onset of hypothermia.Using a lighter with shaking hands is hard enough.
Going to try the cotton wool and vasoline trick next weekend (at home)
Correct me if I am wrong.....which is a lot by the way........Do you not scrape some of the magnesium with a knife off into your tinder? It lights immediately from memory. I thought that was the point of the thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
Personally - I carry a lighter and a few fire lighters wrapped in glad wrap as my primary fire source. Also carry a box of waterproof matches and some bike inner tube. If all else fails - my cooker has a ignition spark on it - so I just fire that up and use that flame from there.
Or we could all just be like Bear Grills and stab your cell phone battery ... ;)
Yeh sorry R93, that was the title of this thread. Doinit, I was referring to the more flint type fire starters (although they are not strictly flint these days).Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
Yip I was going on about the stick only version. R93 I was tossing up which one to get and settled on the stick.Like you say,the other you shave of the stuff into a small heap as such then using the other side,strike up a spark onto the fine shavings.I'm sure the stick on its own would last longer.great wee toy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
Sweet. I have not used one for yrs. I would only ever light a fire in an emergency anyway. Never have one for comfort.
The only time I have ever NEEDED to start a fire(long story but wrong side of flooded river pissing rain) the lighter i had been lighting my smokes with all day had died right when i really needed it. Got one going after a hour or so after pulling 5 factory CRIMPED 308 rounds out basically with my teeth.
Hence carrying 3 separate fire starting things now.:wtfsmilie:
Just as a point of interest, I think the current record for raising a flame using a flint and steel, with natural materials only(not paper or rubber) as tinder, is about 10 seconds.
I demonstrated using a flint and steel to mates at work once, using paper as tinder, and bloody near burnt the office out ! !:)
No denying it can be done but it can be hard in NZ native bush when it has been pissing down for a week.;)
I think you are supposed to break the crimp by putting it in barrel end and working loose and then using a small piece of pull through cloth, or shirt tail or even the lint from your navel. Shoot the cotton wad through your rifle using one of the empty rounds [primer only] and you should have a smouldering rag to add to the stack of powder and twigs. Don't shoot the cotton at your powder stack as it will blow it to hell-and-gone.