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Dam you boat thread ! I'm now looking at boats I can't afford
The best thing you can possibly do is when you finally take the boats on your short list for a sea trial is to try and pick a day when its NOT flat ass calm and load them up just like you would when actually going out. ie gear / people etc. You will get some funny looks / comments but every boat will go OK generally with 2 people and bugger all else on a flat arse calm day.
The time to find out if your new boat is a shitter in the handling dept IS NOT fully loaded in a big following sea when the weather changes unexpectedly.
There must be proven setups that perform in all conditions though?Quote:
Originally Posted by mikee
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Way to GO!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Munsey
To an extent but everything is a compromise.Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
Deep Vs ride nicer goin into a sea but take more power to plane are less stable at rest.
The god awful roll and bow steer in a following sea from a quarter has more to do with bow shape and buoyancy or displacement in the bow section than v . Some boats can be down right dangerous in these conditions.
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Yep, I find I have to trim mine bow hard down in the following sea. Also its much more pleasant and less "interesting" to "pilot" when I have a big load on board. I have been in a surtees with the "balast system" and empty the the thing was down right dangerous, fill up the tank an was totally different boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
Not quite what I would have thought. Bow steer can be a bitch and down right dangerous , especially if you are new to the boating thing. I have found from being in one or 3 different brands /styles trailer boats over the last 13 years that glass boats ride much better and seem to require less operator input. Alloy boats (deep V monohull Not Pontoon style) seem to need you as a driver to stay awake and monitor / adjust trim.
Too many people get hung up on fuel economy at the expense of ride/comfort. Best I can get is 1.6km to the litre, but some days to get that economy would result in a down right unpleasant ride.
did anyone have an idea on cause? ecu scanned?Quote:
Originally Posted by mikee
will be running an etec on our new boat
everything on ours computer controled even right down to the pump in the oil tank
The old man has a Fyran 550 Horizon running a 90hp 2stroke Yamaha, with a 90litre underfloor fuel tank (Same hull as the newer 580 Horizon). Its a little underpowered with four or five of us and shitloads of dive and fishing gear but otherwise pretty good.
Its a real beamy boat compared to most others I have seen in the equivalent size which is good as it gives a little more fishing/diving space but I guess it makes for a more bouncy ride..? Have a look in a few boats before buying one as the floor space varies a lot, had this parked up next to a 609 stabi and the cockpit was significantly bigger and the sides are a lot higher.
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Originally Posted by longrange308
Not as far as I am aware, I have an aversion to computer contolled stuff hence why I am happy with my old 2001 SWS electronic nothing. I can pull start mine even with a flat battery.
[QUOTE=Nick.m;159471]The old man has a Fyran 550 Horizon running a 90hp 2stroke Yamaha, with a 90litre underfloor fuel tank (Same hull as the newer 580 Horizon). Its a little underpowered with four or five of us and shitloads of dive and fishing gear but otherwise pretty good.QUOTE]
It is a setup I am very keen on with a slightly bigger motor.
My first boat was a Sea Craft Cosa Mesa with a 70 hp Johnson on it. The cavitation plate was about three inches below the keel line so it would sorta steer, it would bow steer into a passing boats wake and if you turned to hard it chime walked to about 45 degrees. Shit I learnt about bad habits with that thing, but we all went fishing and learnt to ski behind the bitch.
[QUOTE=R93;159539]Yeap a bigger donk would be good, id say a 115 would be near perfect. In the sea on a good day can push 45mph but cruises around 20-25mph. As I said in general the 90 is enough, just when loaded up or pulling skiers etc she struggles a little.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick.m
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Originally Posted by R93
I seen a nice one with a 115 Yamaha on it the other day advertised somewhere. It was a mid 90's model 540-550 still asking 25K. I cant find it again.
Mikee, the 115 Yamaha we can get here is different to the ones used on the purse seiners?
Yep, never seen one here except on the seiners.Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
Ha! Cheers mate. I wonder what different about them?
Are the seiner ones older carby ones perhaps?
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They have a 2 position throttle, Flat tack or offQuote:
Originally Posted by R93
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Originally Posted by mikee
:thumbsup::D They even run well, while suspended out of the water;)
Yep thats under "optional water cooling" in the "options" they also go from "Full adhead" to "full astern" in the blink of an eyeQuote:
Originally Posted by R93
Kevlarcat with twin yammy 2 strokes are the ducks ! Yes I do have one :D
R93 there is a southern sports 5.3 ,5.4 ? On behalf at butler marine . Seen it when I pick up mine from service . Don't no if that's your thing ? Size ? . Diciest estate , tidy boat too . 90 merc 20 k . Didn't sound over the top to me ? . If it had MCLAY on the side put 5 k plus some . Pm me if you want me to have better look at it , photos etc as 5 mins drive from me .
Are you refering to the super seiners. Sandfords Seiners out of Tauranga only two of them have chase boats one has a 90hp Yamaha and the other has a saltwater series 90Hp mercury the yamaha is a absolute piece of shit corrosion is shocking in them motors flushed everytime with saltaway and they still fouled up with corrosion. the mercury never missed a beat. IMO the mercury is far more reliable motor and after servicing Yamahas suzukis tohatsus and mercurys i would never touch a yamaha again.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikee
Interesting in ll my years doing service on em I have NEVER EVER seen the motors gel flushed. Usually goingfull blast when the boat hits the water and back on deck and off while the fish is dealt toQuote:
Originally Posted by mucko
Yep I guess you might call them "super seiners" but to me anything smaller than 50m is a "toy seiner". Ones we work one are generally 50m (Solomons inshore areas) to 107m (rest of Pacific),
Chief on the boat I was on last week said the 4 Strokes were great till they broke and then they were thrown away and a new one fitted.
Hey R93, maybe we should organise a fishing trip up here and you can try all the boats till you find something you like. You can give mine a good test under the "You break it you own it rule" :)