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Thanks Spanners!

I have a Maxtoch Sniper M24. Has this model been upgraded already?

No - M24 and 2X are current models and likely to remain so for a while.

The standard M24 runs at 3.0 amps and 80-84k lux, and runs 110 minutes on continuous full power with panasonic 3100s.. There is a higher amp M24S version with maybe 90-95k lux spot running at 3.5 amps, but with its extra current draw the M24S will give you lower runtime.

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Did more lux testing on couple of dedomed M24s the other night and they rated 167-169k lux - double the lux output of standard lights. This with new meter which reads bit lower than old one. Gadget and I have field tested torches running round 170k with rangefinder and found they were - in very clear conditions - good for picking out big animal bodies with naked eye to 500 yards. So you can happily shoot to 300+ with a reasonable safety margin behind target. And that's a hell of a long way at night! The bigger 2X dedomed runs round 240-250k lux so you'd be looking at 600 yards or so on bodies in clear country conditions.

We've recently given serious thought to new hunter designs for Maxtoch, or upgrades for the M24 and 2X, but after looking at a range of ideas there's really nothing more to develop at present. The M24 is an excellent all-purpose light (combines beam width plus long distance spot, scope mounted or handheld) and ideal at just 270 gms and $80NZ delivered. Dedomed its a wee beauty. And the 400gm 2X runs perfectly as a handheld with its big stock (120k lux) and dedomed (240-250k lux) outputs. Nothing there to tweak as they are already running copper boards/anti-reflective lens tech etc, and any higher amps/outputs means lower batt runtimes.

Next step I think will be an led advancement eg to an XML3 or XPL etc ... in time ....... We would welcome any ideas - key there is that new designs have to have wide market appeal (eg M24 very popular now with law enforcement) and not do exactly same hunter job as M24 and 2X. I put a question on international budgetlightforum (blf) which is where gadget and I source and develop lights over last few years. Here's a recent discussion on a range of poss new lights - mostly tech talk but nothing really new:

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Cheer Mudz it has been dedomed and is a brilliant wee light.
Just heard rumour they improved them

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Not bad little torch. Heaps of companies make a C8 and they are pretty good value for a rabbit torch.

Bloody good. I guess this one could be de-domed too?

Sure can.

Good wee shottie lights.

Heaps of companies make C8s, they're often of cheaper quality and components often variable. With smaller reflector width mine all tested between 15-32kcd max. Dedome to 35-65ish kcd. Not comparable to maxtochs for power and all purpose performance but they are cheap and useful for the price, and very good on the 12gs at night.

Bit of a lottery as to quality you get but Convoy and Courui some of the best C8 makers.

Thanks for the info.. What sort of usable range would you get after de-dome?

Its hard with C8s because its a generic light, everyone make them, and quality/output varies so much.

Most of our C8s measured 15-24kcd stock, with one exceptional one reading 32kcd. Didn't bother with dedoming but it would lift them to average say 35 - 50kcd. 50-60kcd is certainly great for bunny visibility to 125-150m and bigger animals to 200m. But from our experience C8s did present other problems - eg runtime is alot lower than a 2 x 18650 torch, and some of them (the 32kcd one) had poor heatsinking and heated up so much we could not hold them after 10 minutes.

They're a simple design and very cheap. I gave up on C8s in the end because it was such a lottery as to what quality/power/output arrived at the door. But - try a Convoy and you may be ok - IF it has a SMO (smooth reflector) and not an OP (orange peel reflector). SMO throws light, OP spreads it more.

Very useful wee lights and easy to mod - some people really like them. Good beam for the shottie and at that price if you've got them attached to the bottom of the barrel/tube and the shottie recoil buggers them it doesn't matter too much.

Right, now to find an XM-L2 version WITH a SMO reflector... The only ones I can find so far are either XM-L with smooth reflector or XM-L2 with OP reflector

Did some more lux testing tonight on a couple of Maxtoch lights gadget has just dedomed - a new M24 and a new 2X. They were impressive even shining them on the wall this afternoon, and really lit up the lux meter tonite.

M24 dedomed read 179k lux and the 2X recorded a cracking 256k lux - which is over 1000 meters beam length (down to equivalent of full moonlight).

Took them outside to test (edge of city) and they both easily lit up buildings 400-500m away - even within some city lighting.

Seriously impressed! Bloody hell these things are good - esp when dedomed.

Shit they must be bloody bright!