Thread: Gear shopping - Local vs Offshore - I know...

If I want to have a bakery in my area then I need to stump up and buy their bread
I can make bread at home but theirs tastes better

If I want a basic selection of firearm related goods then I will patronise my local gunshop

Yeah the prices are worse than importing but I'm happy to pay more and have a gunshop in my neighbourhood



It cracks me up how many NZ shooters own big dollar rifles then bitch about the cost of minor components



I don't want to live in a country which is only supplied by Gun City and Humping and Fisting and will happily pay to keep local gunshops in funds

Agreed. But when it's a 80% + mark up then those businesses are pricing themselves out of my patronage

Originally Posted by Eat Meater

I was interested ina Karrimore pack listed on here and out of interest looked at the price new. Identical model was selling for $1300 on one website (shipped from the US). If I bought directly from the US I'd pay USD$350 +shipping.

Identify your target beyond all doubt because you never miss (right?) and I'll be missed.

https://nz.sportsdirect.com/karrimor...5EBack%20Packs

When importing items over the $1000 dollar mark the risk is that customs will require you to clear it through a broker. I know it doesn't always happen, but it can. Clearance will cost you around $150. It is also worth considering what happens if things go wrong with the courier and the package is lost. Insurance on lost packages is a long and often fruitless process. Then there's product support and what happens if you have an issue with the item. Most reputable local companies will happily go above and beyond what is strictly required of them under the terms of a warranty it you have a problem. Personally I will happily support a local company unless what I want is not available in NZ.

Originally Posted by 308

If I want to have a bakery in my area then I need to stump up and buy their bread
I can make bread at home but theirs tastes better

If I want a basic selection of firearm related goods then I will patronise my local gunshop

Yeah the prices are worse than importing but I'm happy to pay more and have a gunshop in my neighbourhood



It cracks me up how many NZ shooters own big dollar rifles then bitch about the cost of minor components



I don't want to live in a country which is only supplied by Gun City and Humping and Fisting and will happily pay to keep local gunshops in funds

So that justifies Hardy’s prices for NF scopes ?

I work too hard for my money to be gouged by the likes of him.

B

Wait till you check out Lowa boots. Tibet's for $375-400 landed versus $780 in NZ, or even basic camping equipment like tents. Bought a tent for $700 from the US and the same model costs $1300. You've gotta be a real masochist to shop local these days.

Originally Posted by Daniel Kwon

Wait till you check out Lowa boots. Tibet's for $375-400 landed versus $780 in NZ, or even basic camping equipment like tents. Bought a tent for $700 from the US and the same model costs $1300. You've gotta be a real masochist to shop local these days.

I just payed the $780 for the Tibet's

A big component of the discount is the fact that you don’t pay VAT tax on these imported items. Then don’t have to pay GST here. For example I buy a bit of kit from Finland and the VAT is 24%.

We have a great wee shop locally in Rivers to Ranges and majority comes from here but the odd thing I have a real preference on are not easily attainable here or I would have to order online out of my region.

now heres a thought out of left field.....let local shop know what price you can get it in from overseas for....and say to them poke a..say$50-100 on top of that and I will buy it off you..... this has always been a "thing" genuine VS aftermarket car parts are a classic for it. chainsaw bits are even more so. but @308 is right if we dont support local little guy.. he wont stay in business and then when you need that pack of primers/couple boxes of .22lr for surprise spotlight mission/etc in a hurry you will be shit out of luck...
30 years ago when I shifted to Timaru we has Falconers field n stream in south end of town,great salmon gear,few reasonable priced guns and good ammunition selection,tiny bit of camping stuff
Buckleys in middle of town...bought by Gary Dix later..lots of good priced guns good ammunition,good fishing stuff and great folks to deal with @Muz257 LOL Bagos was on cnr grey road and elizabeth street...small selection of 2nd hand camping and fishing stuff
then we got a hunting n fishing,Thai n Rita had a TINY shop...no more than 6meters wide and the yhad GREAT prices..... they got bought out and the big store was built...we got another store in washdyke.Davos...Falconers closed when owner passed..Dixs closed not long afterwards,they were in washdyke for a bit so now..we have big Hunting n Fishing and little davos and thats it.... smiths city also USED to have great wee sports section,thats gone now. so we didnt look after little guys and they folded up....

Originally Posted by catharsis

I was there to buy something else and happened to see the scope and read the specs. I then went online to look at reviews and information about it (it's a $2,400 purchase... I'm going to do my homework). The shop I was at offers a price match, so I looked to see if there were cheaper prices locally and some US sites came up as well. I don't really think that makes me a "pillock" but that's 100% fine if you think it does.
Also, the local market gouging you for higher profit margin is what makes things expensive here. I have worked in retail/wholesale sales for a long time and I know exactly the kind of GP% NZ retail stores fleece us for on stuff like this. Have you had a look at what kind of cars the retail business owners drive/where their holiday homes are? Sorry man but they're not your mates and they're not worrying about how they can give you a good deal on the gear you love.

But they carry all the risk, employee people that they struggle to get rid of without paying, pays leases and rates, insurance, GST, tax, wages, Sick days, holidays, parental leave, morning and afternoon tea, comply with health and safety, supply uniforms and boots, take you out a Xmas,plus your better half, puts up with low productivity, advertises, so you can keep working, holds thousands in stock and pays interest on it and fuck knows what else, deserves all he gets and the support of the local market, also puts up with some shitty customers

One issue I have struck often here is that none of the shops keep higher value items in stock - they only get them in once you’ve paid for them. These retailers are nothing more than drop shippers and are just clipping the ticket for ordering it for you. If they want me to buy local then they need to have the stock in store, not expect me to buy sight unseen and charge me a premium for ordering it.

The only thing putting me off buying overseas at the moment is the low value of the NZ$ against the US$. I have been charged GST on items coming in, but they are still considerably cheaper, the available range of goods is huge, and the service generally streets ahead of the service here.

Originally Posted by shift14

So that justifies Hardy’s prices for NF scopes ?

I work too hard for my money to be gouged by the likes of him.

B

Sure, if you don't like a shop by all means don't shop there, I'm not stopping you

What I'm saying is your spending money is like a vote every time you put some dosh down and I will happily spend extra if it helps keep a local shop going that I like

Its a global market these days like it or not.

Personally I remember fondly the days when you could buy quality "everlasting" NZ made gear from either the Macpac or Fairydown factory stores in CHCH.

Oh how times have changed !!





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My phone rings most weeks with someone wanting a part for gear they have either purchased offshore or in NZ from some no name, fly by night importer. I try and help where I can. Buy locally from a reputable company and the problem goes away.

Originally Posted by kukuwai

Its a global market these days like it or not.

Personally I remember fondly the days when you could buy quality "everlasting" NZ made gear from either the Macpac or Fairydown factory stores in CHCH.

Oh how times have changed !!





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twin needle and K2 and swazi come to mind....