Idk but I have a stoney creek jacket thats kept me and my phone in the zip up pocket dry and I've been in some wet weather. like really really wet. 3 hours sitting in a bush waiting for some geese to swim to me in a pissing down storm wet or driving around a farm in the rain looking for deer wet and me and my phone have always come out fine. And it seems though hasn't ripped or anything yet gets used a shit load through the winter and it's not too heavy yet it still pretty warm.
But it's a hunting jacket so don't get it cause hunting gears shit....
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