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I don't currently have a satellite communications unit for backcountry use. Have only recently been made aware of the Zoleo option. I'm no expert on these things. Anything else out there I'm missing ?
Any recommendations from users on the useability of these please ? An important consideration for me is access to weather forecasts.
Also, how do subscription costs compare and can subs. be deactivated / reactivated at will ?
Thankyou for any info forthcoming.
Cheers
Talk to Tony at Trackme website they can answer almost all your questions. Some subs can be put on hold. I don't have one but used to have access to an InReach. Spot is the 3rd option or if you like dealing with Muppets OneNZ will have text coverage on your cellphone this year they say.
Zoleo is a pretty good option- Unlimited Messaging costs 80AUD/month- have to pay for the first 3 activated months before you can put it on hold, once on hold it costs around 4AUD a month to upkeep the phone number and email associated with the account.
Weather updating on it has been pretty accurate and haven't had too many hassles sending messages to the family or my location, just sometimes gets held up waiting for a satellite to fly over
Just curious, could you have it on hold, then activate it when you have an emergency, or does it need to be activated while in a cell/Internet area?Quote:
Originally Posted by SikaHuntaa
I have a PLB away getting new batteries at present, but just been told they won't replace the battery as it will be it's third set. They are concerned the unit may not be reliable due to age. Makes sense.
I'm tossing up whether to go PLB or messaging system.
My understanding is you should keep a plb as a dedicated emergency becon and if you want message you carry an inreach or similar.
I'm not up to play on the tech but I've heard people say hold off on the messaging device as we may get the option to have unlimited satellite connection on our phones soon?
I have a PLB unit. The advantages I see with the satellite / messaging system is access to weather forecasts and texting. And an SOS alert is already built in. I have heard about the pending satellite system coming for cellphones, which I think is 2025 .. ? But I don't know if emergency alerting will be a feature unless done through calling 111 ...?Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmwsm
Was contemplating a satellite unit for an upcoming hunt but might check out hiring a unit to obtain some use experience and determine if going ahead with purchase is warranted.
You’re soon going to have the option of Starlink as an option with your phone plan that will make these devices obsolete.
Rolling out here now with Optus and Telstra.
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Nah, you need to use the internet site to reactivate the account, I also have a dedicated PLB, was debating if I was gonna get the batteries replaced in it once they're out in June but think I will to have a back up to a back up if all else fails
@SikaHuntaaQuote:
Originally Posted by SikaHuntaa
To me it looks like one could have the Zoleo and not worry about the PLB, if my thinking is right. Zoleo battery is rechargeable, so no new battery cost as for the PLB ( unless battery life is very short ). Zoleo has inbuilt SOS function but I don't know if this works identically to the PLB ... ? Some initial cost to get Zoleo set up from new but thereafter cost of use is more reasonable. Plus, with Zoleo you get texting and weather forecasting functions ( and others ? ) that a PLB unit does not have. To me looks sensible to have the Zoleo but am I missing anything ? I'm not a techy person so please feel free to put me right if you could. Cheers.
What happens when you run your Zoleo flat and you break your leg etc?Quote:
Originally Posted by 30.06king
Very much doubt you will ever run a Zoleo flat, they last for bloody ages.
I have both and take both, my understanding is the SOS on the PLB is far more reliable and goes straight to the people in NZ who need to know, with the Zoleo and InReach they get sent to the US who then transfer it over to NZ- not 100% sure on this but the little doubt in my mind about it keeps the PLB that I've had way longer than the Zoleo strapped to my pack as my main distress signal- shit if it came down to it I'd hit both and see what happened haha.
Being rechargable is nice and the unit should only ever be turned on if you intend on receiving texts or weather updates so really no risk of it running out of battery unless you are careless. For me having both brings piece of mind not only for me but for my missus so when the battery on the PLB goes out I'll get it redone and have both
The PLB is transmitting constantly a signal that allows the chopper to pinpoint the location. Other units do not?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ned
Correct.
Having a PLB on you is a given regardless of what else you might have. The cost of a plb amortised over a 7 year battery life is still only $50/year roughly.
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Yes this is true, and when the chopper can't get in due to weather they know where to send the land crew.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ned
Only plus side of the INReach/Zoleo type devices is they can ask you questions if you trigger the SOS function.
Think Garmin have had to pull their socks up (redo procedure) somewhat after Adam Greentree's Southern Alps debacle - basically the guy at the Garmin Helpcentre went to lunch for three hours and ignored Adam's SOS. Going to be interesting to see if the new Starlink/satellite cellphone coverage thingy actually cuts out the need for gps units/this type of tech.
Is that Garmin Helpcentre worker on a never ending lunch break now? That's pretty shocking.
That was before Garmin owned GEOS/IERCC (used to contract to them) - Now owned by Garmin and called Garmin response centreQuote:
Originally Posted by Ned
FYI - Zoleo S.O.S goes to the Garmin response centre / IERCC
Garmin supports LANDSAR in NZ, and has a pretty good history as far as emergency and non emergency resolutions.
https://www.garmin.com/en-US/satelli...rmin-response/
Full disclosure, I'm on the Garmin payroll.
should see if they can do a forum discount / deal :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Randomandrews