JHarriss Knives

I have been asked too list these knives on here.

JHarris knives new design blanks you pick handle material,
king fish fillet knife- Rewarewa handle
chef knife- rewarewa/whalebone
utility knife- pohutukawa
all for sale

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New one of a kind Jarris knives,pocket knife, Pohutukawa and Puriri, two small knives lighter one Black Maire,c/o Ron Bruce, Akitio, darker one Oak from Ora Station C/o Jeff Bryan, All hand forged damascus steel.

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If anyone is interested PM me and I will forward the email address

Cheers Dundee

They look expensive...!!!

What a beauty, almost too good to use. Is damascus steel a good practical metal?

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What a beauty, almost too good to use. Is damascus steel a good practical metal?

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I asked the metallurgist at my work the same question and he said - only for the kitchen. Its carbon content will mean a lot of care to keep it from rusting in the field.

Very true scottrods,but its not hard to give it a oil just the same as when oiling your rifle do it at the same time. The reason I write this is your knife to me is part of your essential equipment and in a lot of cases its the least looked after.

You can get stainless Damascus. It looks mint!

Can someone point me in the direction when I can purchase one of her knives...I bought one when I was in NZ in April (J Harris I mean)

I am interested, bought on when I was in NZ last April and it has been difficult to find her 'site' Cheers

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I am interested, bought on when I was in NZ last April and it has been difficult to find her 'site' Cheers

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Send me a pm and I will message her

Nice handles. Where do the blades come from?

For instance, Pakistani damascus is pretty shit.

Mandy hasn't got back to me but here is her email..... moo75@outlook.com

True historical damascus steel is long lost. The modern day usage of the word damascus simply refers to multiple layered steel that creates the nice looking layered patterns, not the choice of material.

I think almost any knife steel can be used for this effect. It is possible to use pure carbon steel, and it is possible to use stainless steel. What some knife makers do is use a tough high end steel for the core, and stainless steel for the outer layers so you get stain resistance for most part of the knife except the cutting edge, and the toughness, cutting and sharpening ability of non-stainless steel.

Functionally (modern day) damascus makes no difference.

Unless the knife maker tells you, there is no way to know what steel was used.

Can you define " true Damascus steel" please?
Was Indian wootz true Damascus sreel?
Are genuine traditional Japanese sword true Damascus steel?

@Friwi you are from Middle Earth, you should know all;)

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Can you define " true Damascus steel" please?
Was Indian wootz true Damascus sreel?
Are genuine traditional Japanese sword true Damascus steel?

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Q1, True Damascus?

I refer to wikipedia:

"Damascus steel was a type of steel used for manufacturing sword blades in the Near East made with wootz steel.[1] These swords are characterized by distinctive patterns of banding and mottling reminiscent of flowing water. Such blades were reputed to be tough, resistant to shattering and capable of being honed to a sharp, resilient edge.[2]
The steel is named after Damascus, the capital city of Syria. It may either refer to swords made or sold in Damascus directly, or it may just refer to the aspect of the typical patterns, by comparison with Damask fabrics (which are in turn named after Damascus).[3][4]
The original method of producing Damascus steel is not known. Modern attempts to duplicate the metal have not been entirely successful due to differences in raw materials and manufacturing techniques. Several individuals in modern times have claimed that they have rediscovered the methods by which the original Damascus steel was produced.[5][6]
The reputation and history of Damascus steel has given rise to many legends, such as the ability to cut through a rifle barrel or to cut a hair falling across the blade.[7]"

So if I was to define it, I would say it has to be, 1, produced before 1750, 2, from the damascus region, 3, the method of production is unknown.

Q2, was in Indian wootz true Damascus steel?

I never thought about this before. looking at wikipedia, it seems that damascus is based on, and a later development of, indian wootz.

Q3 , are traditional japanese sword (Nihonto) damascus?.

Given the above, I do not think it is definitionally possible for Nihonto to be damascus. But in any event Nihonto steel do not look like damascus. Japanese did not have access to more complex alloy, they got all their steel from iron rich river sand, and their steel making process only added carbon. They mastered 3 techniques which made Nihonto famous. The first is Hamon, or differential hardening. This technique originated from Chinese, it gives steel a hard edge and softer spine, and a visible wave like line. The second is folding. Basically they fold the steel to remove impurity and reduce carbon content down to what is needed. Folding introduces layers, but these layers are much lighter / less visible than what you get from damascus. The third is cladding. Using harder steel for the edge and softer steel for the core and side. there can be a visible line where the type layers meet. However usually there are only no more than 3 layers of cladding so you would not get very clear patterns like in damascus. Therefore true Nihonto will have visible lines but they are very light and usually run from top to bottom, not distinct and complex patterns like you get in damascus.

tried to send an email but no reply... really interested in buying one too.

I have seen a very nice knife with "damascus" patterning made from sawchain evidently holds an edge well.

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Very true scottrods,but its not hard to give it a oil just the same as when oiling your rifle do it at the same time. The reason I write this is your knife to me is part of your essential equipment and in a lot of cases its the least looked after.

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HILLBILLYHUNTERS is right about take good care of your knife. Easiest way to remove the rust/oxidisation is to sprinkle baking soda on a half a potoato and rub down the knives with they turn shiney again I also use a bit of vinegar, confuse the deers as they just think your walking fish and chips and no danger:thumbsup:

Sorry D I am a bit of a novice here, what is a pm??

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Sorry D I am a bit of a novice here, what is a pm??

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personal message

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tried to send an email but no reply... really interested in buying one too.

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I will track her down.

Got her cell number now if anyone needs it but reception is a bit dodgey. Message me.

Fek those r good looking knifes

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I will track her down.

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Received the number you sent me but an important question before I message her. How much do her knives range from price wise? as I don't want to be a waste of time if they are too expensive. But am obviously prepared to pay three figures.

Cheers,

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Received the number you sent me but an important question before I message her. How much do her knives range from price wise? as I don't want to be a waste of time if they are too expensive. But am obviously prepared to pay three figures.

Cheers,

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I'm just the messenger doing her a favour the email address is there,cell phone number has been messaged too those that want it.Mandy is at the very top of the North Island living in the bush with limited service.

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@Friwi you are from Middle Earth, you should know all;)

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Sorry, I only know how to forge "false Damascus":-)

Hey guys I got hold of Mandy,her new email address is jharrisltd@outlook.co.nz

For a hunting knife, I advise caution with damascus steel.

Generally, the steels are blended for the look, rather than for their performance. Mostly they are low grade carbon steels.

If the steels are of high quality and blended with some science and thought they will be at the top end of the knife price brackets. Because they are time consuming to make - lots of welding and forging.

I've tried a few, and always been disappointed.

The good blended/sandwich steels like some Japanese makers use (and Mora and Fallkniven) are quite different to damascus. These are mostly good.

If you like the look of damascus, go for it. But a good single steel blade will likely be better at less cost.

As an example if I wanted to get a bar of O1 carbon tool steel, about 4 mm thick, 40 mm wide then it comes in 500 mm lengths, then I would have enough steel to do two knives and I would probably get enough change from $40 to buy me a cup of coffee...if I wanted in get the same piece in damasteel which is high quality Damascus steel made with top notch powder stainless steels in Sweden then I would be looking at coughing up around $750...

I am sure there are cheaper options, a good blacksmith could make you some, but there is also junk out there. It does look good, some of it performs well, but modern day steel has known properties and tolerances, as well as well understood heat treating science to get the best qualities from your steel.

As a side note, if someone wants a good O1 tool steel knife I am happy to make them one, drop me a line.

Shelley

Hattori makes high end damascus hunting knives with Cowry X as the core, and VG10 as the damascus layers. VG10 is a high end true stainless steel, Cowry X is an ultra high end stain resistant steel. Small knives (100mm blade, 200mm overall, simple profile) are around $600 USD, large knives (130mm blade, 260mm overall, complex profile) goes up to $3,500 USD. see Hattori Hana

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Rockstead makes ATS 34 (similar to VG10) cladding with ZDP-189 core (similar to Cowry X), but no damascus look. they are around $3,200 to $3,600 USD. See Rockstead Un

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These are as high end as they come.

However, you can get damascus Hitachi White Steel (tough, high purity carbon steel, non-stainless) knives for as low as $150 USD. Still very high quality steel, but much lower price.

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Only issue is that they are not made in New Zealand.

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Hattori makes high end damascus hunting knives with Cowry X as the core, and VG10 as the damascus layers. VG10 is a high end true stainless steel, Cowry X is an ultra high end stain resistant steel. Small knives (100mm blade, 200mm overall, simple profile) are around $600 USD, large knives (130mm blade, 260mm overall, complex profile) goes up to $3,500 USD. see Hattori Hana

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Rockstead makes ATS 34 (similar to VG10) cladding with ZDP-189 core (similar to Cowry X), but no damascus look. they are around $3,200 to $3,600 USD. See Rockstead Un

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These are as high end as they come.

However, you can get damascus Hitachi White Steel (tough, high purity carbon steel, non-stainless) knives for as low as $150 USD. Still very high quality steel, but much lower price.

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Only issue is that they are not made in New Zealand.

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How many of those high end knives have you tested? In my limited experience, expensive does not mean high end

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How many of those high end knives have you tested? In my limited experience, expensive does not mean high end

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I am a nobody, even if I did test a 3000 USD Hattori and Rockstead, you still should not just trust my subjective opinion if you were interested in these knives. You should read more reputable reviews yourself.

Expensive does not mean high end, but high end means high end.

Hattori is one of the most famous japanese smith currently still alive. Check out the demand for his KD series kitchen knives. CowryX is one of the highest grade knife steel in the moment, 3% carbon, 66~68 HRC. I have used a low end Hattori VG10 kitchen knife, it has extremely good edge and very high standard fit and finish.

Rockstead is THE most famous japanese hunting knife brand right now, all they do is hunting knives. there are youtube videos low end rockstead folder knife cutting through a phone book, and cutting thick rope 1000 times and still able to slice paper.

If money was no object for me, I would buy a Hana and Un before buying a Purdey

Well as we see Mandy is understandably otherwise disposed.

So I checked Shelley and have this little ripper heading my way, courtesy of my wife for my BDay.

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Still has some finishing to be done, wasn't what I was looking for but I see some options/gap that can be filled...lol

PM Shelley if you're looking, she has sent me plenty of photos and has some nice knives ready or nearing completion.

I also have an ol' mate in Tauranga who has made me a knife or 2 that has some available, he's going to send me some photos..

Here are some he's made, I own Photo 1 the bottom 3 in Photo 2...lol yes I'm a bit of a magpie.

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Love this country and all the little crafts people we have tucked away...

Damn this thread.... I thought I had some nice knives now I'm embarrassed to show them! Really don't need anymore but..... But...

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Damn this thread.... I thought I had some nice knives now I'm embarrassed to show them! Really don't need anymore but..... But...

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You can never have too many knives, rifles, fishing rods... A generalisation I know but my wife has more shoe's and handbags than I can point a stick at...I always find it a good point for comparison, she can't argue...lol

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Well as we see Mandy is understandably otherwise disposed.

So I checked Shelley and have this little ripper heading my way, courtesy of my wife for my BDay.

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I was looking at grabbing that knife off Shelley, ended up with its brother instead. Shelley showed me a small knife that was still 'under construction' so that came along too, once it was finished, for my young boy to earn at Christmas time.
I'm very happy with both knifes, Mine just needs a little work to the handle to get a better fit to my hand

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Still have not heard from her???

Hi...finally seen her message about the baby....will have to look elsewhere... cheers