I brought one of these
Led Lenser SEO5 LED Headlamp - 6105
and rate it better than my H14 as it has no wanky battery compartment at the back of your head
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I brought one of these
Led Lenser SEO5 LED Headlamp - 6105
and rate it better than my H14 as it has no wanky battery compartment at the back of your head
Is the sniper suitable for scope mounting? or is the MAXTOCH Green Beam Filter CREE Xml T6 1000LM 18650 LED Hunting Flashlight(TA6X 7),MAXTRAC Extension Tube For Extra Battery-in LED Flashlights from Lights & Lighting on Aliexpress.com a better option?
Cheers
The Sniper has been designed for scope mounting. we got the manufacturer to put the previous model on a major diet, put in a copper carrier board and better low reflectivity lens.
Anyone buying make sure it is from EST GROUP Co., Ltd as there are others now pinching the name and flogging off rubbish gear.
This new Maxtoch M24 Sniper is a beauty. Very well made light. After disassembling and testing gadgetman and I both gave it 10/10.
It is specifically designed by kiwi boys as an all-purpose hunter light and incorporates some high tech electronic features. It is light at 270gms and ideal for both scope mounting or handheld spottie. Stock they produce 83,000 lux (hotspot intensity) with a range of 580 meters, and dedomed they produce 173k lux with 840m. No trouble lighting up a cream house on the farm at 1 kilometer with these figures. We did NOT design it as a pencil beam - we wanted a beam with both long distance plus ability to scan paddocks in seconds - which it does.
Takes two rechargeable 18650 batts - use high quality ones like panasonic 3100s for max runtime. They are regulated unlike the LL torches and do not just run down with diminishing light over a couple of hours. On full continuous power they will last 100 minutes on high - with no light dimming over that time. Med is still powerful, great for possums, and med and lo will give umpteen hours of runtime.
They are designed with mode memory so always come back on in last mode used - effectively an on/off in high or med etc. Build quality, lens quality, reflector etc excellent, and they come in a very nice canvas carry bag, spare tail switch, spare O-rings and lanyard. They have been under development for many months and if you go to this link you can do a catch up by reading just the last 2-3 pages:
FishnHunt - New Zealands Famous Hunting and Fishing Forum Since 1995 - Maxtoch SN6X-2 upgrade soon....
and for best batts, mounts, chargers etc read this sticky:
FishnHunt - New Zealands Famous Hunting and Fishing Forum Since 1995 - Maxtoch SN6X-2 upgrade soon....
Having seen both, this is a much better proposition than any of the LL range. It has more advanced electronics, much better performance and at a fraction of the price. The first Maxtoch occasionally gave tailcap switch issues but the last 2 models have been very good. Gadget and I have been playing with the new M24 sample, dedomed it, and its an absolute beauty. M24 is about $80NZ delivered.
Note: Maxtoch also produce a bigger heavier 440gm light - the SN6X-2X. This also now incorporates our recommended electronic upgrades and pumps out 120-125k lux standard, and an expected stonking 250k lux dedomed. That is huge power - ideal as a truck spottie etc. Again just $90-95NZ delivered.
Aliexpress.com : Buy MAXTOCH Sniper M24, Lighter Version of SN6X 2S, AR Lens, Copper LED Base, Longer Shooting Distance from Reliable copper cab suppliers on EST GROUP Co., Ltd
Best hunting lights I've seen in terms of all-purpose capability (we did not want just pencil beam), value and performance. Get them!
PS - gadgetman, myself and the other kiwi boys help them design the gear for fun - not profit.
Yes- as gadget says watch out for knock-oofs. Maxtoch becoming a market leader for well priced performance lights and there are outfits trying to rip them off. This $37 light proneshooter mentions is not a maxtoch - God knows what it is - so take care:
http://www.dhgate.com/product/maxtoc...164943075.html
Great stuff - counting down till payday.
Actually it IS a gen maxtoch, it is in their aliexpress store
Aliexpress.com : Buy MAXTOCH CREE Xml T6 1000LM 18650 LED Hunting Flashlight(TA6X 7),MAXTRAC Extension Tube For Extra Battery from Reliable tube batteries suppliers on EST GROUP Co., Ltd
I chatted with Amanda and she talked me up to the M24... which is ordered :)
I mentioned the comments on here about how helpful she is and she was totally buzzed!
The 1000lm one would probably be good for possum spotting and the body is 1inch so you could mount it on a scope
cheers
Tracy
Today is the day. Still undecided between the M24 sniper and the next one up - I think it may end up replacing my hawker hunter xt2 and go on my rifle so the sniper being the lighter one seems more sensible. Love new toys!
I find it amazing how technology changes things... These torches are throwing out more light than the traditional sealed beam handheld spot with the motorcycle battery in a daypack! And hands up everyone who is OVER humping one of those damn things around on your back all night :relief:
Tracy - I will check again with maxtoch but the torch pictured in the dhgate SN6X-2S link (posted first above) is not an SN6X-2S. Does not look like any maxtoch I know of and we've been testing their range for 2-3 years. The other link you post is actually for a TA6X-7 - which we have had to NZ for testing. It's not the torch pictured in the dhgate first link.
The TA6X-7 a good little XML torch which can be operated with 2 batts or as a stubby with one - also comes with red and green lenses. Versatile wee light. Nowhere near as good as the M24 Sniper.
I know what you mean about big halogen spotlights - our team was shooting just on 1000 bunnies per night couple of years back using quite a collection of lights including handheld halogens and an HID spot. This got us seriously researching new light tech. Got a helluva shock when I lined the maxtoch up with my halogen 6" spottie - the maxtoch was better and retained good spill/beam width. I haven't seen a big handheld on a trip since.
Hey Mudgripz :)
Yeah sorry, crossed wires. No that thing on DH does not look legit for sure.
Amanda just mentioned that they are developing a rear cap with the remote switch on it for the M24 sniper. I ordered the one they have but she came back and said it didn't fit the sniper. I think a remote on/off would be handy.
I have to say that I am amazed at the power of even these cheapie no-name things:
2013 Fashion Self Defense Mini D11 Cree Q5 7W LED Flashlight 500LM Orange Portable Zoom Waterproof Camping Torch Free Shipping-in LED Flashlights from Lights & Lighting on Aliexpress.com
for $8.00 its brilliant! and when I think what I used to have to pay for maglights way back when... all I can say is Viva La CREE LED! Viva La Chine :thumbs:
Tracy
Gadget, are you gonna put a couple of demo pics up as to how to de-dome?
I've got one of these on its way and would like to try doing the operation on it
If you do, thanks in advance
Any chance I can come round for a preview @gadgetman ?
Sent from my Browning
Now - URGENT QUESTION - need some feedback today.
Maxtoch making the pressure switch for M24 - How long should cord be between tailcap and pressure switch. Presuming scope mounting I'm thinking max 40m to forestock? 30-40-50? Thoughts - I don't use them.
50cm would be good
Allow it to come straight down the left side past scope, taped and run along stock to thumb location.
Any excess you could loop the excess and tape to stock
40cm I think.
Sent from my Browning
I'd have thought 40 was plenty... even if you mount the light slung under the barrel that should be long enough
...or maybe a curly cord?
Curly cords are pricks of things.
400-500mm should be plenty, 40m would be massive overkill:D
Hey Gadgetman, are the boards direct to copper mounted or still with dielectric layer?
Chris
Copper board. :thumbsup:
Ok thanks for good advice - the consensus from here and nzrimfire site is fairly clear.
Maxtoch will make cord length for the M24's pressure switch at 40cm - and a part of that 40 will be in curly cord. 40cm is plenty for normal use but the curly section will allow those who need more cord e.g. when mounting pad on longer 12gs etc to do so.
Maxtoch also bringing out a similar pressure switch for the bigger 2X. This has different threads/tailcap from the M24 - part of the weight saving for the lightweight M24. So different switch coming for the 2X - no doubt they'll standardise threads over time.
They are putting them into production straight away.
wow thats impressive! thanks for all your effort there Mr. Gripz :) I bet Lenser and surefire dont engage with their customers THAT directly!
How do the lightweight torches handle recoil?
I seem to remember the original maxtoch did not like being mounted on the end of a shotgun barrel - blast recoil would be very heavy there.
Boys have no probs in our squad using them on 223s and 243s - scope mounted.
Heres some beam shots ,
Left to right : new dedomed M24, dedomed sn-2s, original sn-2 dedomed bottom = new m24 untoched. from 5 meters on the freezer so a white background.
Attachment 24003
Side by side of the m24 dedomed on the left standard on the right. Wall is a mat finish off white
Attachment 24004
Had my first failure with the dedoming , Gadget to the rescue with a replacement emmiter :thumbsup:
Domed looks whiter and brighter in both pics to me,What am I missing here?
Will these things honestly outperform the big light force running off a vehicle or more like the smaller light force running off a gel batt?
Yes the white cold tint is deceiving , it appears brighter like this but its thin for lack of a better term. If you look at the second pic the dedomed spot is denser and holds together over greater distance.
The first sn-2 was equal to the lightforce 170 I had in throw, I sold it then so have nothing to compare now. We can do a side by side some time
Impressive, I found the 170 good for clear identification of the body of a deer(colour and form not just outline) to 400y depending on the night and 600odd with the 240.
Will it match the 170 for reach and spread?