Maxtoch are useless. Get one of those torches from the CHCH pixie. Does funny things to them and then you can see the deer on Mars.
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Maxtoch are useless. Get one of those torches from the CHCH pixie. Does funny things to them and then you can see the deer on Mars.
who is the "chch pixie". do you have details about this little guy?
:D:D:D
I'll pay him a visit and pull his wings off.Quote:
Originally Posted by bully
go go gadget arms!Quote:
Originally Posted by gadgetman
new M24 arrived this morning,with batteries,cant wait for it to get dark.
What are the specs of the batteries that come with the M24 if you order the "Torch, batteries, charger" combo on Aliexpress?
came with Trustfire batteries 3000mAh the thing is awesome, turns nightime into the day, I do not think I could shoot beyond its range but I still think it will get dedomed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rakiura John
Are those Trustfire 3000mAh Batteries "protected batteries"?
I've just been emailing Amanda at Maxtoch. She says the batteries that are included in the "Sniper M24S, Batteries, Charger, Holster" combo are Maxtoch branded 2600mAh protected batteries.
I'm trying to decide between the M24 and the “improved” M24S for rifle-mounted possom/rabbit shooting (to which I am a newbie). The original M24 (3000mA) has a runtime of 180 minutes (according to its Product Details), while the more powerful M24S (3500mA) seems to have a runtime of only half that (Mudgripz in Post #48 of this Thread mentions 100 minutes, Amanda of Maxtoch indicated to me 70 – 80 minutes). On paper then it seems a no-brainer – if the less powerful original M24 will do the job quite adequately, why bother going for the more powerful version with its significantly less runtime. In the field though perhaps there are other considerations? Perhaps I should go for the greater power and carry more batteries? Any comments appreciated.
The Trustfire 3000mAh are protected cells. For the difference in output compared to runtime I'd go the M24, it has plenty of grunt and personally I prefer runtime over output. They will both light up further than I'd be happy to shoot.
+1 gadget's comment:
"For the difference in output compared to runtime I'd go the M24, it has plenty of grunt and personally I prefer runtime over output. They will both light up further than I'd be happy to shoot. "
We tested the black M24 at 83k lux and 100 mins runtime on ful noise with pana 3100s. The new grey M24S runs at higher current producing about 93k lux but drops to 70-80 minute runtime. The difference between 83k and 93k in the field isn't much, and if you dedome the stock M24 you're up to 173k lux - which is all you need and still gives the good runtime.
M24 better balance of output and runtime, and ideal rifle mounted or handheld spottie. If you've got an M24 on yr rifle, and want something different as a handheld try a 2X. Mine showed 240k lux dedomed which gives excellent spottie range. Te Rei has one - no doubt he'll tell you how good they are :)
Good to note also you almost never run torch/batts continuously for their max 100 mins runtime. In the field they actually last longer than that because they're often on and off for some reason - eg you may be using a handheld alongside a rifle light - or stopping truck for a yarn, fresh ammo, a cuppa or something.
Thanks for those replies, - a M24 it will be! BTW, it seems strange that Maxtoch include 3000mAh batts with their M24 combo, and only 2600mAh batts with their more gutsy M24S combo - that must give the M24S even less runtime than the estimated 70-80 mins.
Torch arrived today and very impressed, this is a really nice bit of kit :) Bugger the batteries have not arrived though so no play time for me....
The batts that come with some orders have ben trustfire 3000s which test ut as actual 25-2600mAh. Maxtoch I suspect have rebranded these (Trustfire and Maxtoch owned by same coporate) but given them correct 2600mAh rating. Likely same batts.
GM - here are some batts on trademe that are quite good. If you want a set to play with while yrs arrive these will be fine. Samsung 2600s: He does them at $21pr + $9.50 for each extra batt. $40 for 4 samsungs is fine. Also just $3.00 post which is where tardme dealers often rip people:
18650 SAMSUNG 2600mAh Protected (Pair) | Trade Me
He also has good nitecore chargers - see his other listings.
No good.Sick of looking at deer on Pluto.Quote:
Originally Posted by mudgripz
Well, my torch turned up and I seem to have got a dud. It's extremely dim (I have a $5 torch from the Warehouse that is brighter), and there isn't any mode switching.
It's really well built. Would be a perfect torch if the damn thing actually worked :X3:
Guess I'll contact EST Group and send it back.
Bugger! You may have got the one candle power one Josh
I've seen candles with more power than this torch :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
Flick it to @gadgetman to slap about. Isn't he the expert on those things? It is probably a crook flux capacitor. As if I would bloody well know. Ha ha ha haQuote:
Originally Posted by Josh
:D :D :D that'll be it!
Sorry to hear you got a dud Josh - the M24s and 2Xs have been super reliable. Email amanda and she'll tell you what to do - they're all under 12 month warranty I believe. See what she suggests but if need be I may be able to send one up to you to play with till a replacement arrives.
Happy to sort it out for you Josh.
Yes give it to Brian - hopefully an easy fix. If its fluxed you'll no doubt get a new one pretty quick.
I'm not too worried that it isn't working - have seen from posts on here how good their customer service is, and Amanda has got back to me with some useful suggestions. Sounds like I might be the dud instead haha, I was testing it out with some crappy 2500mAh Trustfire batteries that I bought a couple of years ago. They worked in my other smaller torch, but it sounds like you need ones that are a bit gruntier to get this one going. I'll get my hands on some 3100mAh Panasonic batteries and a proper charger and see if that works.
Thanks for the offers of help guys - I'll see if it my just my own dumbassery first :thumbsup:
Josh if you want to loan a torch or some batteries or even get me to have a quick look at your you are more than welcome. I have 3 slightly older models, all dedomed and great hunting lights. Just flick me a PM
Iv joined the club and got the maxtoch.
whats the rubber ring on the body of the torch for?
it seems if you turn on and off (making the click) fairly quick it also changes mode. I thought it was suppose to stay on the mode you choose while not making the click?
the light does spill out a fair bit. im keen on dedome, but it might have to wait for a bit.
Think it is something like 3 seconds it needs to be off for memory. Switch back on sooner than that and you get the next more. De-doming will cut the spill down and increase the intensity of the spot.
This NZ seller Panasonic NCR18650B 3400mAh protected rechargeable battery (single) suggests that protected batteries are only needed if powering a “very, very poorly regulated light”. They also state that Panansonic don't actually make protected batteries, it is down-stream manufacturers that add protection circuitry to Panasonics, that high quality protection circuitry is expensive, and therefore if you want quality protected batteries you should buy high-cost brands such as Keeppower etc. (I can't quite understand what they are coming from by volunteering all this background as it must therefore follow that the well-priced protected batteries (3400mAh @ $16.50) they are actually selling on their website have lesser-quality protection!)
Anyway, my questions are:
1. Are Maxtochs “well regulated” (whatever that actually means), and if so, do we need to bother using protected batteries in them?
2. Maxtoch are now selling their own branded protected batteries. If these protected batteries are not expensive, does it follow that their protection circuitry is lesser-quality? Does protection-circuitry quality actually matter?
As far as I'm aware all Panasonic cells have protection circuits and they are bigger circuits than most which is why they are much longer than the usual 18650 spec and are more like 18700 cells (18mm diameter x 70.0mm long). The general rule is that you should use protected cells in torches that use more than one cell. By having each cell protected the light will cut out when one cell reaches minimum voltage. Because they are never all the same capacity you run the risk of running one too low if using unprotected cells.
Hi guys, I finally got my batteries and put them in and the light and the output is like the batteries are extremely dead (but they are not). I tried both sets and also tried a friends with the same result. Has anyone had any trouble with their torch? Will email Amanda but thought I would check here for advice first. Thanks
Sounds like Josh's torch above that I have here. Amanda is sending me a few spare circuit boards.Quote:
Originally Posted by GMH72
Thanks, yes sorry it does sound the same... should of read back in the post :) Will email and let her know.Quote:
Originally Posted by gadgetman
Yep, I ordered two, one is good the other a dud with the same problem you've got, I contacted Maxtoch and a replacement is on the way, they wanted the dud back so they paid for the shipping.Quote:
Originally Posted by GMH72
I think Amanda is away having a baby, I was dealing with her then Terry took over, he seemed just as helpful.Quote:
Originally Posted by GMH72
I've been having some trouble with my Maxtoch, after about 30 minutes use on fresh batteries it turns itself off, after a while I can turn it back on but will keep turning itself off, is this the circuit shutting it off due to low batteries or a fault in the switch? Is strange as I can throw the batteries in my single battery torches and get another 2 hours life out of them
I've had this issue before and it was flat batteries, either caused by bad battery charger or some muppet mixing the charged and uncharged batteries together. What batteries are you using and have you checked them with a voltmeter after charging?Quote:
Originally Posted by specweapon
Hi GM, yeah I just tried unscrewing it and it did get brighter but couldn't get it to stay on... Amanda also emailed me and suggested that I unscrew the head and check the circuit board was centered, I did do this but couldn't see how it could not be centered so maybe her instructions were not clear, or I didn't quite understand :)
The faulty torch is halfway to China now, I did a tail-cap test and it wasn't a faulty tail cap. It wasn't faulty batteries as the second torch worked fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by gadgetman