Thread: Newbie hunter. Which backpack?? Size?? Brand?? Other gear?

You seem like a good keen young fella... If you're headed down Rotorua way, give me a holler and I'll take you for a walk in Te Urewera... I've got a full spare set of gear you can use..... All you'll need is a bottle of port������

That sleeping bag is temp LIMIT -9 which is about 0 deg confort at best.
650 loft also
I think you'll find better options available for the money


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Originally Posted by Biggun708

You seem like a good keen young fella... If you're headed down Rotorua way, give me a holler and I'll take you for a walk in Te Urewera... I've got a full spare set of gear you can use..... All you'll need is a bottle of port������

Sounds like an offer i cant pass up mate! Hunting the te ureweras is my goal for the north island, so it would be awesome to get a feel for it first hand with someone who knows their way around in there! Shes a big forest

any preferences btw?

Originally Posted by Spanners

That sleeping bag is temp LIMIT -9 which is about 0 deg confort at best.
650 loft also
I think you'll find better options available for the money


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ohh i see okay that makes sense. Man, these temp ratings are bloody confusing.. better idea to probably just work out how warm itll be through the ratio of total weight to the loft rating ae?
isnt 650 loft pretty decent? been looking at this https://www.bivouac.co.nz/gear/campi...-trek-tk2.html loft is the same as the kathmandu but the rating is -8 lower confort level, is that the same "limit" as the kathmandu im guessing? i mean realistically, it hardly ever goes below the 0 degree mark in the north island.

thanks for the advice man! (wish i had the dough for your express, looks like a bloody nice bag)

Ignore any lower limits etc.
have a read of the EN ratings.
A woman's rating is also for like a short 60kg which is quite different to 75 kg male.
Personally i wouldn't look at 650 loft - 800 all the way. Buy once cry once. Will get 20 yrs out of a quality bag


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Originally Posted by TheJanitar

ohh i see okay that makes sense. Man, these temp ratings are bloody confusing.. better idea to probably just work out how warm itll be through the ratio of total weight to the loft rating ae?
isnt 650 loft pretty decent? been looking at this https://www.bivouac.co.nz/gear/campi...-trek-tk2.html loft is the same as the kathmandu but the rating is -8 lower confort level, is that the same "limit" as the kathmandu im guessing? i mean realistically, it hardly ever goes below the 0 degree mark in the north island.

thanks for the advice man! (wish i had the dough for your express, looks like a bloody nice bag)

Mate it often gets way below zero in the north island... I've had my socks freeze solid...inside the hut!

Originally Posted by Biggun708

Mate it often gets way below zero in the north island... I've had my socks freeze solid...inside the hut!Attachment 67989

Holy moly... ive experienced weather like that, but only in the middle of the south island

800+ loft it is......

Originally Posted by Spanners

Ignore any lower limits etc.
have a read of the EN ratings.
A woman's rating is also for like a short 60kg which is quite different to 75 kg male.
Personally i wouldn't look at 650 loft - 800 all the way. Buy once cry once. Will get 20 yrs out of a quality bag


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+1

Always wear something on your head in the bag too, stops the oils from your hair matting the down. Easier to wash a hat.

Originally Posted by Biggun708

Mate it often gets way below zero in the north island... I've had my socks freeze solid...inside the hut!Attachment 67989

Classic. I've seen my past poppas hot water bottle hit the floor of the hut frozen solid out of his sleeping bag. Mid Okahu @Biggun708


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When you rich and famous, you have 2 bags... One 500gm for summer and a 800 for winter...

Originally Posted by Biggun708

When you rich and famous, you have 2 bags... One 500gm for summer and a 800 for winter...

That's the long term goal

Thanks for everyones input!

Originally Posted by Biggun708

When you rich and famous, you have 2 bags... One 500gm for summer and a 800 for winter...

And start with the warmer one. You can always open it up a bit so it is not so hot.

Originally Posted by gadgetman

And start with the warmer one. You can always open it up a bit so it is not so hot.

Yea exactly! Have kind of gotten my head around the temperature measures. They are comfort, comfort limit, and then extreme limit (basically you're gonna die if it gets colder than this haha). Really interesting. Have also taken on board what @Spanners said about the EN ratings. Looking at a couple, this one sticks out to me Latitude 500 XP Down Sleeping Bag | Macpac NZ nz company, (easy returns or warranty claims), EN ratings that seem appropriate to nz climate (warm enough for winters ?), quite light at 1.1kg, 700+ loft. Steep price but I'll wait for sale as I'm not really in a rush, also may know a guy who can get it cheaper for me. Thanks guys!

If you're going to spend the money get a Epic


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Originally Posted by TheJanitar

Yea exactly! Have kind of gotten my head around the temperature measures. They are comfort, comfort limit, and then extreme limit (basically you're gonna die if it gets colder than this haha). Really interesting. Have also taken on board what @Spanners said about the EN ratings. Looking at a couple, this one sticks out to me Latitude 500 XP Down Sleeping Bag | Macpac NZ nz company, (easy returns or warranty claims), EN ratings that seem appropriate to nz climate (warm enough for winters ?), quite light at 1.1kg, 700+ loft. Steep price but I'll wait for sale as I'm not really in a rush, also may know a guy who can get it cheaper for me. Thanks guys!

I have that sleeping bag, they are hot in summer, but what I did was buy the escapade?? 150 that goes inside, have slept with these 2 together in -4 central north island in a tent with thermals on and roasty, and while tenting over summer with family slept in the 150. Perfect combo

Hamish

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