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Hey guys,
Currently looking around for a pack to take on day hunts and overnighters (upto a couple nights).
Been looking at some second hand packs and just have a couple questions. Would 65L be enough or should I jump it to 75L and has anybody run both an Osprey and Tatonka and preferred one over the other? Any advice would be much appreciated. Cheers guys
I take 85litre...because if I shoot something I want to be able to carry the meat out.
What he said..all good and well to cram overnight gear into smaller pack but shoot a deer and your trouble starts as to how to carry meat out.
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65 is the perfect size for your gear even into winter when you carry a bit more clothing but then lacks the room to fit in meat from a large animal.
A lot depends on the quality/size of your gear like sleeping bags and tents etc and if you have to carry lots of water
75 or 85 is a good starting point and gives you more flexibility but just remember not to fill it with crap just because you have the room.
50L ancient Macpac Pursuit in summer, my 80L Spika Drover in winter
I have 65L and a 75L Macpacs and for overnight the 75L is so much easier if you need to fit meat in. For a day hunt I'll use the 65.
It also depends if you are going to bone out the animal.
This is the beauty of packs with a meant shelf - they don't have to be big. Usually expensive though.
This is pretty much dependant on how big your sleeping system is and tent vs fly etc, also if you can rough it for one night or you like every comfort? 50L is plenty even if you get an animal if you have a smaller bag and a fly and then most of the time it will only be half full
Whoops. "Meat shelf"Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
Modular frame pack does the trick, carry the frame with a small day bag attached and have the meat shelf to load your kill on. Some popular frame packs are better than others so do your research
Still mostly use a 40+ year old K2 70l frame pack. Rats got at inside of outer pockets at some stage but still does the job. Frame can be a bit of a pain in the arse in tight bush. Carried a shit load of meat out over the years. With sleeping bag, fly etc it still has room to carry more meat than I should these days. Approx 60kgs load a fortnight ago was nearly a bit much for this fella. Also use a 60l Macpac Cascade at times, another great pack.
As others have stated it depends how much gear you take and also what beastie you intend shooting. A big body red is a hell of a big load even broken down & boned out. Too much for me regardless of pack size. A wee fallow or Sika a different story. I really like my Tatonka 70+10 but too big for overnight trips. Prefer 60L or there abouts for this
@chainsaw. You’re not wrong there. A bit off topic but last big stag I carried out off bush whole in 2011 I got a shade under 70 kegs boned out meat. He was a big fucker and it was pure determination and a dash of stupidity that I got it out. Normally a leisurely 20 minute walk turned into hour and three quarter grind. Wasn’t too keen on going back for pack and gear. Took a few days to get over that and not that sure I’d attempt it again these days, body is over it.
I used to overnighters fly camping with a 40L pack.
You could fit a boned out red deer in there if I put my sleeping bag in the outside on the way out.
As others have said just get a expandable pack, just be diligent to only put the essentials in there as the more space you have the more shit you put in it.
When I was a young fulla me and a mate would do pig hunting overnighters with only a couple of muesli bars in a bum bag. No sleeping bag or nothing, just find a dry spot and cuddle up to a dog for the night. Couldn't do it now though too soft
You old buggers and your old out dated shit. Don't you know that the more you spend on gear the lighter the loads get. Get with the program.Quote:
Originally Posted by woods223
Going off topic a bit but since doing a fair bit of farm and vineyard based deer culling I don’t have to worry about packing out much these days. Like a few on here if I can’t drag it to where I can drive or ride a four wheeler it stays where it drops. Can’t wait to get out for a hunt though, finally got Covid and it’s clipped my wings bit. Back on track, there’s some useful info on this thread for OP. The take home bit is don’t carry needless shit. Keep it basic: rifle, ammo, sleeping bag, tent/fly if needed, sleeping mat if really necessary and basic snack food. You can do without a full on meal for one night/day.
I get away with a 35 ltr pack but adding a deer leg or 2 and a back steak and it gets margional. tuck them under the extending hood and use some string as well.
Not really suitable for alpine work and extended trips.
I do manage to fit a down bag, exped down mat, jetboil, set of thermals, light water proof pant and coat, belaclava/neck sleeve, gloves and a long sleeve fleece, water bladder etc. may have a bino chest pack with rifle pull through, phone, eye glasses etc and my Mackpac olympus tent. (normaly only the fly, poles & pegs). Sometimes the rifle will be on the back of the pack as well so both hands are free to use walking sticks. Oh and some food. Some times the tent and poles go on the outside of the pack, First aid kit and PLb are in the pack belt bags,
The larger that pack the more you are inclinded to carry which slows you down and make the uphills harder and the downhills rougher on your knees.
If you are not planing on any longer trips or needing to carry real apline rain and snow gear I would look at a 55 ltr pack.
NB I started out with a Terra-nove 85 ltr and carryed way to much stuff but then in my 20's I could not afford the light weight down gear etc I have now.
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@ Z this is where a meat shelf is fantastic !
Check them out if u haven't already....
Also if possible a modular system. Pack size interchangeable..... Kuiu, Elberstock, even tatonka now too I'm pretty sure doing it.
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Yep both Tatonka and Spika, I have the Spika big bag but for short trips the ancient Macpac Pursuit that is getting on for 30 years old.Quote:
Originally Posted by kukuwai
Will have a look at those. I did drop from the 85 down to a 65 ltr but son has that now and besides it's too much pack for me now, I'm either flying in or only doing 1-2 night Northisland trips.Quote:
Originally Posted by kukuwai
My little 35 ltre pack is getting overloaded at times with >20kg if the rifle and tent are both strapped on plus some water.
Gives me flash backs to my Dad's old frame pack, except the old one has more air flow around you back and the frame is hollow to fill up with White Spirits and the cap has a little pourer in it.
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That old one was a Mountain Mule.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZQLewis
Thanks Tahr, nice to know this stuff as Dad can't tell me now. He would have got it 1960 ish and I know he did a couple of years shooting for tails in the Nelson Lakes area before going to Lincoln. Remember him saying he earned more doing this than his Dad made as head master of Nelson Boy's (or Waimea College) at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
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Just use a big pack that is comfy when full and still comfy when empty or nearly empty for day use.
I just snug up my 85L Osprey Aether AG.
I use a 40 l spiker pack hunted for 4 nights out mine & with the meat shelf it's fine to bring boned out meat home after using a pack with a meat shelf id never get a pack with out one I find them so good
Yeah, currently debating between the Aether 70 and 85. Does your 85 compact down nicely when its only semi full?
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I have the Aether 70 if you want to try it on/have a look? Have larger Kathmandu etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Chamdawg
My pack is looking slightly long in the tooth (a Lowie from 1982 that has seen things)
So. looking at the odd looking black 85L osprey. I believe i'm a large size (just).
Anywhere over 40 litres. Depends on the quality of your gear, much of the cheaper stuff is bulky and requires more space. You’ll be surprised how little space good, expensive gear takes up.
As far as your question about Osprey vs Tatonka goes, I find the Osprey lighter and better designed but the Tatonka a bit more robust, except for the stretchy side panels, they always seem to rip.
The bees knees are the packs with a meat shelf. I’ve got a Kuiu and an EXO Mountain pack and I’m leaning towards the EXO at the moment. Clever packs.