Ya best sleeping mat, side or back sleeper and pros and cons? And any info!
Looking at finally getting one after getting pissed off with sleeping on the ground, and have watched review after review, but would rather opinions on here!
Cheers fellas
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Ya best sleeping mat, side or back sleeper and pros and cons? And any info!
Looking at finally getting one after getting pissed off with sleeping on the ground, and have watched review after review, but would rather opinions on here!
Cheers fellas
I use a thermarest neo air Xtreme it's awesome never touch the ground and never get cold. Just get the Xtra large as it's wider.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxie boy
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well a closed cell foam one is cheap,and better than hard ground alone..... oldschool lilos were priceless,the modern lightweight versions are good but not as thick. Ive popped two of the modern ones and ended up sleeping on all my spare cloths... not ideal.you cant beat a camp stretcher if close to the car.
Exped synmat 7 winter. I tried out a few different ones in bivouac a couple of years ago and picked my one because it was the quietest to move around on, others sound like lying on a chip packet. Little bit heavier than some of the others and if I had more money I might have got the downmat. It's more comfortable if not blown up too tight.
blown up too tight @Sidelock is probably still laughing after I did that then it popped when I sat on it!!!!!! man the ground was cold n hard.
I have used cheap closed cell, a Kathmandu inflatable a couple of expeds and a klymit.
The klymit one is pretty good and not too expensive. The osed cell ones are cheap and uncomfortable. Expeds are good but getting expensive.
I'd recommend the klymit.
Something like this.
https://www.equipoutdoors.co.nz/bran...UaAtlREALw_wcB
We've got a few Klymit mats in the family. No punctures or complaints so far, but the camping has been pretty tame.
I have both a Exped synmat and a neoair xtherm. The exped I've had for 5-6 years and does the job, i find it uncomfortable to side sleep, never felt cold, it's small and narrow so you come off it easy, the blow up bag thingy is brilliant.
The xtherm (older model)I picked up off here about 4 months ago and used it 3 or 4 times. It's a large and I find it a lot more comfortable. I haven't tried it in winter yet so can't comment on warmth, it is noisey but only while getting in and out of your bag and blowing it up is a pain.
If I was buying new I'd go neo air for the extra comfort but it comes at twice the price of the exped
Thermarest Neoair Xlite is hard to beat, if you need higher thermal insulation - like winter snow camping, then the Xtherm.
For winter use you need to look for an R5 rating or higher
Same as above with thermorest
But if going in for longer or near vehicle
Helinox cot light camp stretcher for next level comfort
Just a modern 1kg version of the old camp stretcher
For winter use I add a foam mat and flannel sheet that ties to the legs and keeps the mat in place
No cold spot in bottom of sleeping bag then
Added benefit of being able to store rifle under the camp for
This is the absolute perfect ( but expensive ) sleeping system and will never puncture and go flat
And a warning to the wise
If you suspect your blow up mattress has a leak
Don't blow it up and leave it to see if it goes flat without putting some similarly weighted object on it overnight
I blew mine up and left it unweighted overnight and it seemed fine
Went to use it mid winter on hard packed snow and had a very uncomfortable night with all my cloths packed under me
On the up side the genuine thermorest repair kits do a very good predominant repair if you do it correctly
Permanent
I can vouch for the Klymit mats too - very comfortable as inflatable mats go. The one I have isn't the lightest, but the comfort and most importantly insulation it provides from the ground is invaluable!
Which model Klymit ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Steelisreal
Im another with the neoair xtherm and will replace it with another when its dead.
The thermal rating is great and i use it with a quilt,
Fairly sure it's this one:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarvo
https://klymit.com/products/insulate...31778110734426
Had cheap macpac ones that lasted one trip then went into the bin. They have since been discontinued.
We now use the klymit static v short(non insulated). Cheap and comfortable. No dead arms when sleeping on your side. Weighs under 400gms from memory.
Works even better inside a bivi bag if you use one.
One question for others. I’ve often found mats need to be re inflated slightly in the night. Is this just from air cooling and compressing overnight? Not talking about a slow leak but they all seem to just need a top up after a few hours.
If blown up from your chest the air is warm and when it cools it shrinks. The blow bags that come with most new models prevent this.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPEARONZ
I've just recently bought that one and its the most comfortable one i've ever had and i can sleep on my side on it. The V 'baffles' also help hold the body in place on the mat. I had the bushbuck one before which was okay, a lot thicker for sure but this is more comfy and about 400g lighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steelisreal
I have had a few different sleeping pads over the years.
A couple of exped down mats which were very comfortable but both had baffles delaminate.
I have a regular thermarest xlite with the tapered shape, very light but I don’t find it very comfortable (I side & back sleep and tend to move a lot).
My go to is a thermarest xtherm MAX (rectangular), pretty expensive and not the lightest but super comfy and has a high r value.
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Any one used a bushbuck Cumulus LT Insulated Sleeping Mat ?
Is there any advantage or disadvantage with a integrated pump or pump bag
Use an Exped with a pump bag.
Easy to use, can be used as a dry sack.
No huffing and puffing air into the pad.
Has a shower attachment which I haven't used in anger.
No water laden breath inside your mat with the bag.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbear
We have 2 Thermarests, 1 Exped and 1 Sea to Summit
The Sea To Summit isn’t the lightest but personally I find it the most comfortable with its kinda quilted top
It comes with a velcro system for holding the Sea to Summit in place overnight and it actually works! Not sure what what is the warmest but I’m in the Deep South and I have never felt cold. Personal opinion again but the other reason I like it is because I don’t seem to slide around on the Sea to Summit
Yup. Not bad but moved to a Klymit Static V insulated. Bushbuck was okay, quite comfy but takes a bit to inflate and just over 1kg. The klymit just had the edge for me but happy to answer questions. Still have the BB but might be willing to sell.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbear
+1 for the Klymit and the pack pillow. I don't bother with insulated mats as sleep super hot even in snow. Saves a little weight but not a lot.
The little sea to summit pillow as mentioned above has been a game changer. As above weight is f-all and packs to about the size of a pack of 20 cigarettes but being soft fits into any nook you will have in the pack.
Only caveat is after your trip hang it up with valve open or you will have a manky air bladder full of unknown lifeforms.