Sub 1kg tent / sleep systems

Hey team. Just got back from an overnighter in the kaimanawa. Did well, shot a nice stag

Im struggling to settle on a sleep system for this type of hunting, here was my setup from the other night. I pack lean, no spotting scope, limited clothing, just the necessities. I walk big KMs

What are people using for a sub 1kg sleep system? I prefer poles if possible as I don't really carry a trekking pole and a trekking pole system can fail as soon as a peg is ripped out..

I have been looking at something like this

https://www.msrgear.com/ie/tents/bac...ent/11514.html

Would be keen to see what people use, keen for some suggestions

Cheers

Zpacks pocket tarp with doors.
Bathtub floor.
48” carbon pole.
Titanium pegs.


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Get a mate to carry the other 2kg. Sorted :thumbsup:

Intent outdoors has loads of ultralight stuff worth looking at.

Some as light as 700g I may add and it won’t break the bank, should be okay for NI

Does it need to be a tent? Bush or open tops hunting?

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Originally Posted by chainsaw

Get a mate to carry the other 2kg. Sorted :thumbsup:

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I hunt solo 90% of the time ha

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Originally Posted by Bradp

Does it need to be a tent? Bush or open tops hunting?

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Sorry I should have been more specific

Tops hunting, specific to NI, sika country focussed

Doesn't need to be a tent, something quick to set up, small footprint, stable, as light as possible. Worst case weather I can head into the bush if necessary

Watching with interest, currently using a Rab siltarp 2 and a Zpacks Bivy bag I brought off here, but always can go smaller and lighter

even been looking at my guy lines etc
https://chainsropesandanchors.co.nz/...d-Armare-1.5mm

Use siltarp2 for everything nowadays
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How do the tarps go if it rains heavily, does the rain flow under making stuff wet? My guess is yes but genuinely interested in how it goes.

I have one of these and would recommend it
https://www.gearshop.co.nz/collectio...-platinum-tent

Have used the older model heaps before the kia's destroyed it.

Nice thick floor compared to my msr, Used it in summer with just the ground sheet fly and poles was mint and way better if the clag rolls in then a fly by it self

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Originally Posted by Happy Jack

How do the tarps go if it rains heavily, does the rain flow under making stuff wet? My guess is yes but genuinely interested in how it goes.

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Nah has to be shit tonne of rain and just make a trench along uphill side if it got to that stage

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Originally Posted by hotsoup

Hey team. Just got back from an overnighter in the kaimanawa. Did well, shot a nice stag

Im struggling to settle on a sleep system for this type of hunting, here was my setup from the other night. I pack lean, no spotting scope, limited clothing, just the necessities. I walk big KMs

What are people using for a sub 1kg sleep system? I prefer poles if possible as I don't really carry a trekking pole and a trekking pole system can fail as soon as a peg is ripped out..

I have been looking at something like this

https://www.msrgear.com/ie/tents/bac...ent/11514.html

Would be keen to see what people use, keen for some suggestions

Cheers

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Do you sweat like crazy with that biv bag?

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Originally Posted by Freezer

Do you sweat like crazy with that biv bag?

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Found it in the garage, it was terrible. Thought I'd try it, I knew the conditions were fine for a test

I was reading that's how some of the super ultra lights are trialling it in the states, basically a reflective vapor barrier, tip the sweat out in the morning and keep going

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Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

Use siltarp2 for everything nowadays
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Looks like a good pitching method you have there Ryan[emoji106]

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I use a smd deshutes tarp and either the inner or a borah Bivy.

Been in some snotty wind/weather and never had a peg pull. Would rate it much higher for shitty weather than the sub 1 kilo tent options.

The mid style shelters are really your best bet for weight vs capability.

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Originally Posted by hotsoup

Found it in the garage, it was terrible. Thought I'd try it, I knew the conditions were fine for a test

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Yea, they are emergency only really. Be good to keep you alive but I can’t see why you’d want to actually use one.

For weight I rate these. They rip if you are rough but are big enough to slip sleeping pad into . I don’t bother zipping it up

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/329735...martRedirect=y

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Originally Posted by Freezer

Yea, they are emergency only really. Be good to keep you alive but I can’t see why you’d want to actually use one.

For weight I rate these. They rip if you are rough but are big enough to slip sleeping pad into . I don’t bother zipping it up

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https://terrarosagear.com/
ozzie made gear too
I haven't brought off him but made enquiries before the whole 2020 shit and seems pretty genuine and innovative
that was before I got my ZPacks bivy

Big Agnes has some good light options. You tend to forego a few things like free standing and really lightweight floors that need a footprint. Advantage with a heavier free standing tent, you can use the outer with the footprint to make a really light durable shelter. Example would be the Big Agnes copper spur UL1 at 850grms with footprint. However the full tent excluding footprint is only 1.08kg. They have great reviews.

Have just grabbed a 3 person one at 1.79kg as have 2 boys to drag round the hill.

Also have a Hilleberg UL10 tarp for going light in the warmer months or as additional shelter in the bush when the weather is shit. It’s 750grms and the ducks nuts when it comes to tarps. They have been cut a certain way that allows it to be so taunt.

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Originally Posted by hotsoup

Hey team. Just got back from an overnighter in the kaimanawa. Did well, shot a nice stag

Im struggling to settle on a sleep system for this type of hunting, here was my setup from the other night. I pack lean, no spotting scope, limited clothing, just the necessities. I walk big KMs

What are people using for a sub 1kg sleep system? I prefer poles if possible as I don't really carry a trekking pole and a trekking pole system can fail as soon as a peg is ripped out..

I have been looking at something like this

https://www.msrgear.com/ie/tents/bac...ent/11514.html

Would be keen to see what people use, keen for some suggestions

Cheers

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I inhabit those regions as well. Think I could get within 500m on the map of where you were camped:cool:

25 years ago, in my much fitter days I carted small plastic screw top drums, bivvy bag, tarp, sleeping mat and sleeping bag up into those primo glassing and camping locations. All burried underground. Sleeping bag is a little musty these days, but a day in the blazing sun sorts that out. Means I can go back up there hunting for 2-3 days carrying only a rifle, binos, food and a raincoat. Means I can range far and wide and not have to cart heavy gear any more.

Got 3 spots up there. Absolutely magic in good weather. Will be up there next week.:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by XR500

I inhabit those regions as well. Think I could get within 500m on the map of where you were camped:cool:

25 years ago, in my much fitter days I carted small plastic screw top drums, bivvy bag, tarp, sleeping mat and sleeping bag up into those primo glassing and camping locations. All burried underground. Sleeping bag is a little musty these days, but a day in the blazing sun sorts that out. Means I can go back up there hunting for 2-3 days carrying only a rifle, binos, food and a raincoat. Means I can range far and wide and not have to cart heavy gear any more.

Got 3 spots up there. Absolutely magic in good weather. Will be up there next week.:thumbsup:

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Report and pics would be good.

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Originally Posted by XR500

I inhabit those regions as well. Think I could get within 500m on the map of where you were camped:cool:

25 years ago, in my much fitter days I carted small plastic screw top drums, bivvy bag, tarp, sleeping mat and sleeping bag up into those primo glassing and camping locations. All burried underground. Sleeping bag is a little musty these days, but a day in the blazing sun sorts that out. Means I can go back up there hunting for 2-3 days carrying only a rifle, binos, food and a raincoat. Means I can range far and wide and not have to cart heavy gear any more.

Got 3 spots up there. Absolutely magic in good weather. Will be up there next week.:thumbsup:

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Haha, agreed, magic for sure!

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Originally Posted by Tahr

Report and pics would be good.

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Will do.

3 km from hotsoup's camp, 9 years ago. DS 195

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Cut it out

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Here are some of the stuff I use.
Don't worry about the exact models, they change from year to year.
From Left to Right:
Kathmandu medium down bag "Moonraker" 1770g
Kathmandu light down bag "Pathfinder" 760g
Alp Sports Goretex bivvy bag with plastic groundsheet 570g (no it doesnt sweat at all)
Rab fly with two dyneema ridge ropes and tiny thread like guys 680g Half the weight of a fly can be in the cordage.
Thermarest neoair 430g

In summer in the Kaimais it will be the fly with thermarest and light sleeping bag but I take a light down jacket and thick fleece trou to sleep in.
Next weekend, I'm off to the Kaimanawa tops, possibly see you up there @XR500, and it will be the bigger bag, bivvy bag, thermarest and fly but we'll camp where you come out on the tops so not much carrying, just range out from there.
As important as weight is the size. You need another grade of pack to carry that winter bag and the pack itself weighs more ...
Sandflys can be a hassle down south so those inner mesh tents look real good !


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Here's the fly pitched in one of the nicest spots in the Kaimais.
It poured down and I was totally dry. Luckily there wasn't much wind.
That's an old model blue thermarest that weighs 50% more and is twice the bulk to pack.

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Originally Posted by Freezer

Yea, they are emergency only really. Be good to keep you alive but I can’t see why you’d want to actually use one.

For weight I rate these. They rip if you are rough but are big enough to slip sleeping pad into . I don’t bother zipping it up

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/329735...martRedirect=y

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I use one of these and find I get a lot of condensation in it. The outside of my sleeping bag can be quite wet some mornings.

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Originally Posted by ROKTOY

I use one of these and find I get a lot of condensation in it. The outside of my sleeping bag can be quite wet some mornings.

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Do you zip it up? I use mine open with an exped bag that’s water repellant.

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Originally Posted by Freezer

Do you zip it up? I use mine open with an exped bag that’s water repellant.

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Open, Rab bag that isn't waterproof.

Hyperlite mountain gear tarp, Thermarest NeoAir and an Enlightened Equipment quilt.

@hotsoup you need one of these, I really like mine, same weight as a fly but you have bug protection https://www.tarptent.com/product/aeon-li/#tab-id-2

https://youtu.be/0SXKrbyWZL8

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Originally Posted by outdoorlad

@hotsoup you need one of these, I really like mine, same weight as a fly but you have bug protection https://www.tarptent.com/product/aeon-li/#tab-id-2

https://youtu.be/0SXKrbyWZL8

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Nice thankyou, I had actually already had my email on the waiting list. Good to hear you rate it! @outdoorlad

Drop the sleeping mat and take some Tylenol nights with you. Fast way to drop weight and not worry about comfort :)

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Kuiu summit star for the win