Thread: Swazi - Davey’s semiautomatic stance .

Originally Posted by Beavis

Chris Cahill admitted to this. Semi and pump shotguns were spared because they were worried they might not get the whole thing over the line if they pissed off too many people. All it would take is another shooting with either and they're gone.

this is why I wished they had gone for the lot.

Originally Posted by GDMP

There is no problem with semi-auto rifles per se,with a small capacity internal magazine they are no more 'dangerous' than any other repeating rifle.The universal ban was based on politics not logic.Maybe the days of large detachable magazines are over but there was no need to just ban the lot outright like they did.And I am surprised there are so many shooters who can't see this rather obvious fact.

Agreed, on what planet is a Browning BAR an assault rifle for taking on the masses? oh wait, this one apparently. As to the main thrust of this thread, NZ is not his market, so he actually doesn't give a fuck about kiwis anyway.

ANyone got the time to make a comprehensive list of ALL the cunts (businesses/organisations) who threw us under the bus?

I will spread that list like butter and push it harder than a drug dealer.

It needs to be consistently published and refreshed for years to exact a pittence of revenge on these mother fuckers.
If people like HnF and this Swazi idiot, Deerstalkers etc had used logic and held their tongue or supported us we might have stood at least a fair chance of being heard.

As it was, we all know how it went down.

I will never forget this shit.

Originally Posted by 257weatherby

Agreed, on what planet is a Browning BAR an assault rifle for taking on the masses? oh wait, this one apparently. As to the main thrust of this thread, NZ is not his market, so he actually doesn't give a fuck about kiwis anyway.

Does he push his swazi stuff in the states? if so some emails might get some effect over there.
Those yanks are not likely to support anyone who talks that kind of shit.

Viva le reveloution

Originally Posted by 40mm

ANyone got the time to make a comprehensive list of ALL the cunts (businesses/organisations) who threw us under the bus?

I will spread that list like butter and push it harder than a drug dealer.

It needs to be consistently published and refreshed for years to exact a pittence of revenge on these mother fuckers.
If people like HnF and this Swazi idiot, Deerstalkers etc had used logic and held their tongue or supported us we might have stood at least a fair chance of being heard.

As it was, we all know how it went down.

I will never forget this shit.

Main reason I won't buy Swazi is it's way too expensive for polarfleece. Then he moved production offshore. Then he threw us under the bus.

Originally Posted by MB

An illogical decision from the government, no doubt to keep F&G/duck hunters on side.

One thing I've never understood since moving to NZ.

How and hell does F&G have it so much more together than anybody else and why so much government support? Why are a pest fish and a bloody duck of all things so much holier than everything else released here as a game animal. The mind boggles.

Originally Posted by Jt89

One thing I've never understood since moving to NZ.

How and hell does F&G have it so much more together than anybody else and why so much government support? Why are a pest fish and a bloody duck of all things so much holier than everything else released here as a game animal. The mind boggles.

Fish and Game are set-up by the Government under one of the bits of Conservation legislation. They use to be called Acclimatisation Societies. Deer and possums use to be under their control and you needed a licence to hunt/trap them. Then their numbers got out of control and their legal status changed from game animals to noxious animals.

Originally Posted by Jt89

One thing I've never understood since moving to NZ.

How and hell does F&G have it so much more together than anybody else and why so much government support? Why are a pest fish and a bloody duck of all things so much holier than everything else released here as a game animal. The mind boggles.

Yeah, I don't think there is an answer to that! There are historical reasons, but as for logic, that is absent.

Originally Posted by Ground Control

This is one I found quickly, there are more out there where he elaborates his views .

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/the-count...ectid=12215228

Swazi and H&F are the first that come to mind when I think of “ bite the hand that feeds “

Ah righto, yes I totally disagree
Would it put me off buying his brand? yes

@308 I haven't been able to afford his stuff although I may have a swazi jacket I bought 2nd hand off a mate many years ago.
Wouldn't now if I could help it.
He just needed to keep his fat trap shut. He could've said it was a tragedy and things need to be looked at etc but no. Had to big note himself and throw everyone under the bus. Even semi 22s weren't so flash. Lucky he didn't shit on shotguns. By his reasoning unless we were using single shot 303's and 22's we just aren't doing it right.
Fair enough-people are allowed their opinion but that was just bollocks.
And as for being scared about people with semis, that's pretty crap too. There are dodgy people out there with bolt action-he is stereotyping them.
I have had experience with a person on a Stewart island trip in the early 90's. I had a 243 woods master semi auto. I was told he didn't like them and wouldn't hunt with me. I thought that was a bit rough as I hunted with semi shotguns and didn't see the difference. They are either loaded or they aint but treat them as such.
Also if hunting in a pair the first guy is the only one with ammo anywhere near the chamber. Guy following is just there for the ride so what does having a semi auto matter?
You either trust me to have it unloaded or you don't. Brought up around the bolt action ethos and that was it. We still got on alright but I still thought it was naïve.

By his reasoning unless we were using single shot 303's and 22's we just aren't doing it right.

yea or maybe a spear?

Originally Posted by mimms2

And something about "professionals" using the word "gun" gets right up me... I've got a nail gun, a staple gun, a glue gun, a caulking gun... different things from firearms

Gonne = ye olde english word for any contraption of war.
Arm = weapon
man with gun = armed, weaponed up.
It's just english.
In some countries a firearms license is called a weapons license, but we are very sensitive about that, I get that.

If ever a snidy cop refers to your "weapons", ask him if your firearms license is a weapons license. Watch his face and see the cogs go round and round and get nowhere.

To be fair to him, there were plenty of people saying the same about there being "no need for semis" and IMO people with those opinions didn't think of the future. It was pretty obvious to anyone with a brain cell that this divide and conquer approach to fracture the hunting groups would be the start of something else, but no one listened. Let's hope us naysayers were wrong we don't get shafted any more than we have already been but i'm not holding my breath...

To answer the original question - yup, i won't be using them or H&F again, plenty of other choices.

.e.

Yeah, he's over-stepped the boundary there. He's the owner of a clothing company not a nominated voice of the people. All of us are to blame for that don't forget. We can't get our shit together. The "rabbid dog" like posts about setting out to sink him are uhmmm worrying to say the least...Great image for us on a public forum.

I thought I would buy Swazi gear again after this virus thing, support NZ made and all. That article makes me think hard about doing that. Maybe it's better to support a company like First Lite who're associated with the Meat Eater show which has a positive influence on the general public for all hunters. Something for me to think about.