I've got a torrent I've used as my main jacket on farm now for a few years still going good as and it's completely waterproof still although I have given it a few treatments. Tahr are good untill the moisture makes its way in then they take bloody ages to dry out and are heavy as. Best compromise I've found is Earth Sea Sky Hydrophobia, they are a shell type jacket but it's a little softer than a lot so is a lot quieter but still gives you that proper shell jacket rain protection, pretty robust too I've got a couple of them one is my main hunting jacket and other one gets hacked around the farm a bit
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