Looking at getting a tatonka modulus wondering if anyone using one can share their thoughts on it
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Looking at getting a tatonka modulus wondering if anyone using one can share their thoughts on it
For the money you might as well just buy a purpose built hunting pack like a Mystery ranch, Kuiu, Exo, Stone glacier etc... you'll never look at a Tatonka again.
To be fair.. the Tatonka modulus + pack is still half the price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sika 8
Was looking at an exo landed in NZ and its over $2k ..
However I agree those top shelf packs are just on another level
Still looking at around the $700 mark for the modulus frame and a bag to go with it.
I paid $800 for my Mystery ranch Marshall on sale here in NZ from Safari supplies I think normally $1000, Stone glacier are here in NZ now to.
https://tatonka.co.nz/hunting/modulus/
Designed in NZ - By whom? a first year design student in wellington, who has never ventured further than to the nearest beach?
Tested to the extreme in NZ - by walking up and down 100m on said beach.
But hey they made the bag look green so it must be good for hunting...
They have essentially just turned the bison into a separate frame and bag, and used the word "hunting" so they can charge more.
Have fun doing hunting in NZ bush with that retarded frame sticking out like it is
The bag is not even waterproof so you have to deal with a rain cover that will get either blown off by wind or shredded by bush.
What a bunch of clueless numpties
With the 75+10 bag on it, you're already up to 4.2kg which is 1kg heavier than the standard 90+10 pack.
Kuiu,stone glacier,mystery ranch.you’ll never look at a Tatonka again.I’d be looking at stone glacier now they are available in NZ
FWIW I have the previous version Lastenkraxe frame and while it is a handy seat around camp, the thing squeaks like a bunch of Greenies saying that shoplifting is a direct result of refugee trauma
Yea most others have nailed it. Off shore options are the way. My Kuiu pack changes bags real quick and easy, has a load shelf, is super comfy and weighs like 2kg empty.. Stone Glacier being in NZ now will give them a run too. 4kg plus for just the empty pack is just crazy in this current day..
Try avoid Tatonka if you can. Far higher quality options available on the market. It's a buy once cry once item
Not my pick as there packs don't fit me but I think the likes of South Island rifle walkers have been testing them on Youtube and probably a few others have too. The Duleys tend to use Tatonkas on their shows.
Can someone please tell me who is selling Stone Glacier in NZ.
They use Tatonka rain covers to cover up what it is they are actually using a lot of the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy Jack
The harness on the Tatonka Bison is mint for carrying heavy weight. I would def buy another and not worry about the modulus.
Also with the ‘premium’ side of the market I’m not convinced that all weight savings are a good thing. If something weighs a bit more but increases comfort or reduces fatigue then it’s not a negative
They definitely don't! Maybe on the off snippet. But any of their proper expedition trips you won't find them using TatonkaQuote:
Originally Posted by Happy Jack
That’s the thing though, the Tatonka doesn’t always have that over the lighter ones - it’s just a straw held onto to justify the extra weight a lot of the time. Everyone I know who owned a Tatonka and then upgraded to a Kuiu or Stone Glacier etc have all said they are just as if not more comfortable with a big load. My 115L Kuiu (LT7000) at 2ish kg empty weight is super comfy with a shit ton of support. Their one confirmed negative is price point, hence why so many are happy just rolling a Tatonka because they do work good.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPEARONZ
The harness on the Bison is truly great. I have carried 50kgs with it, apart from me nearly dying the pack handled it. That's about the only good thing about it, whoever designed the bag to go with it is a brainless moron.
- requires an extra rain cover, costing an additional 50$ which is neither suitable in wind nor when bushwhacking, this means you will need an additional drybag.
- pack is incredibly unwieldy, even when nearly empty as it can not be properly made smaller and is absolutely unsuitable for bushwhacking. the harness sticks out behind your head and will literally catch on every branch.
- pack is very heavy.
- dumb design adding additional "side" bags that are completely unusable if the main bag is loaded up and compressed (i.e. packed properly)
- reinforcement of the bag at spots that do not need it and weak in spots that should not be (e.g. the bottom of the bag, ripped a hole in there on the first trip)
- absolutely not suitable as a day bag for multi day missions in dense bush, i.e. you will want to carry an additional smaller backpack that does not catch on everything, which just sucks, so you will just swear all day when bush hunting with it.
- Did I say it is heavy and unwieldy?
I would only recommend the Bison for open tops stuff, when carrying of heavy loads is required, because the harness is truly awesome. As a general-purpose hunting backpack for NZ conditions (bush) it is not suitable.
In the end it has been designed by Europeans for European hikers in the northern alps. Nothing about it is NZ, that is a blatant lie.
The sad thing is that most American Hunting Backpacks have been designed for Boreal Forest. I.e. relatively open stuff.
All those overseas options are a significant step up price wise aren't they? The bison is priced in the sweet spot for those with a less flexible budget.
I'm hopefully in the market for a new pack later this year, i was looking at the bison or the drover.
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To be fair, any pack that had a decent frame ie, every pack that carries weight properly has a frame that sticks up be hiding head/shoulders, and won't be great for buch bashing.Quote:
Originally Posted by STC
It's a tradeoff that needs to be made for carrying large loads
The vast majority of very high end packs aren't waterproof either.
I landed my kuiu for about 700 bucks. They have a couple of good sales per year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rn-85
They only just announced on Facebook page that NZ Asia will be the wholesaler. Flick NZ Asia an email or give them a call. I couldn’t see NZ listed under their “Find a Dealer” section of the Stone Glacier website.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobb
Exactly, cause neither Europe (hikers) nor the us have too much dense bush.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick-D
The phrase" designed for NZ" most often is a blatant lie.
the perfect hunting pack can carry heavy loads (50kg) can be packed down to work as a daypack (versatility) is waterproof and ideally silent. Not saying such a pack exists.
It's not all about the weight savings, its more about having something purpose built for hunters needs, like carrying rifles & meat and spotters etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by SPEARONZ
Also way better materials that has gone into "premium packs" like carbon frames & stronger fabrics, its not just built to a price point, I reckon most Tatonka users would ditch them after trying the "premium" options......
Just cause Rogee says its cool does not make it cool :XD:
Pretty cool how much gear is developing these days then. As stagstalker says I’ll have to try one to see for myself at some point.
I remember getting a macpac cascade and thinking it was amazing. When the bison came out I wondered how the hell I had ever used anything else. The likes of kuiu may well be the same revelation.
That’s rough taking the piss out of ur dad like that sika 8, to be fair there’s no doubt a bunch of subtle brand promotion going on in this forum as well.
I went from a old 60L MacPac Cascade hand me down to one of their newer ones, then got a damn good deal on a Kuiu Icon Pro 7200 and that blew my mind before deciding it had too many pockets for my liking and going with a SG 7900, once I figured out I'd screwed up and ordered the wrong size belt and sorted it I can comfortably say it is the best pack I have ever used. While I was in the states I got to try out some Kifarus, the newer Kuiu, and the only one that could maybe see me sway is the Exo K3- can get them at a sharp price second hand too
I’ve had a couple tatonka modules, the kuiu system and now a mystery ranch metcalf,
I’ve looked at those modulus in person and I wouldn’t recommend them
To anyone. Tatonka are very well marketed In New Zealand, if given the chance I highly recommend borrowing
One of the high end American packs from some one to compare it to the tatonka, it’s a huge difference in quality and performance. If anyone’s in taranaki I’m more than happy to show you what I’ve got or send videos via insta or messenger
The current Kuiu sale has 30-40% off packs.
Makes them very affordable. I have one already but just grabbed a bigger bag for $260 nz.
Tough to beat !!
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The current price for a Kuiu 85+L is about $860 on sale. Not including shipping and a bison standard price is about $620. And you can pick one up cheaper on sale. The Tatonka and Kuiu are different tiers and not really comparable.Quote:
Originally Posted by kukuwai
If you're starting out and can't put your hands on a pack, which is significantly more expensive, it's a far less realistic consideration.
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If you are just starting out and looking for a pack.....I would be looking at one of these [emoji106]
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North Canterbury rivers to ranges. Ballangers h&f and a few other h&f stores as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobb
I got quoted $1350 for a SG sky 5900 xcurve frame from rivers to ranges. I ended up getting one landed out of the states for $1100 including shipping from 1 shot gear. Just wait for a sale. They sent me wrong belt size, so they let me keep the one i had and sent me a new one free of charge. Great service.
Will never look at a Tatonka ect again. Carry's a load like no other and the full horse zip access is so good. Compacts to nothing. Use it as my day pack and would get 10 days out of it easy.