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Nothing from China, unless, made in Hong Kong or Taiwan.
How true, I’m going to be honest, I always shop around locally for the best deal or even here, but when an outlet like H&F sends a very clear message to aspects of it it potential consumer base the way they did, I don’t forget, if that means they experience financial stress or whatever then that to me is karma, I will spend a little more at local stores or small businesses that didn’t throw me under a bus, my way of supporting those who supported usQuote:
Originally Posted by Tikka7mm08
roll of 4x4 cloth....Quote:
Originally Posted by Sakoswarosorted
$120 ashleys or $140 Sarvo specials
std dies <$100
coast head lamp ex H&f $140....big torch was from mudgrips
you have choices...if you want to buy top of the line,thats a choice to pay top prices,if you give retailer a chance to match price...thats thier choice.
You completely missed the point there mateQuote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
Fuck anything from China.
https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/31/l...upplies-china/
That is all.
Yeah I'll be buying all hunting gear from Giles at Taihape sports, prices can't be beat and good guy to deal with.
Almost certainly many of us will be pretty broke so decisions will be made to not purchase at all.
Woody: I believe you have the most believable handle on this. When I get home, I will not be buying anything I don't absolutely have to.
Because, the government will have fucked my ability to earn while devaluing whatever savings I have left and passing on whatever productive income I manage to generate in the future, to the labour-voting Northland iwi-ferals, the Northland iwi-sofa-sitters, and the South Auckland multi-progeny-by-different-fathers solo-mothers.
In other words, the government will be carrying out Business As Usual, but more of it.
This exactly [emoji106]Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
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I have never been much of an online shopper and I always tried to support local unless they were just taking the piss with markups so no nothing will change their.
And fuck hunting and fishing.
But you havent got long left you might as well spend up large!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
No, I need to save for my funeral.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
Yes. If a family had managed to save NZ$100,000 as at January 2020 it would have been worth about US$90,000 (The major international trading currency).
Today our NZ$100,000 is devalued to approx US$60,000; so our NZ family has lost 40% of its tradeable equity almost overnight. On top of that we are goung into a massive national debt because the COL failed to shut out the covid19 by decisive decisionmakung action. The opposition too, and the "expert" economists failed to scream "DANGER" loudly and quickly enough.
I hope the gullible NZ state dependents now created will demand accountability from the mutts that have sold us into servitude.
Sadly, I do not think we will ever get to the stage of tar & feathers. Usually, New Zealand gets no further than the stage of Tahring and Dithering, because we have so many ex-university lecturers as our government.
Chickens will come home to roost when bullets cost $200 / 100 and imported clothes cost nearly double.
Hopefully the NZ wool and fabric , leather, footware and many other local msnufacturing businesses will rebirth to replace the imported debt creating and job costing goods currently brought in from offshore.
yeah nah....if the corona gets you,the state will chuck you on the BBQ and hand relatives a sealed jar afterwards....no big pissup party allowed either...but there will be one very sad lass sitting at the driveway gate looking for her buddy to come home and take her hunting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
I'm thinking of moving into coffin makingQuote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
Growth industry
Use my joinery skills and abundance of macrocarpa
Ironic semi retirement job
Forum discounts maybe that might help @Tahr
My discretionary spending will definitely drop, the nice to have stuff won’t be brought and I’m patient enough to wait for sales to get a good deal, customer service in NZ needs to sharpen up a lot. The product knowledge of staff, say REI (Outdoor shop) in the state’s is amazing, here you get “ we have a blue or green one” I’ll support local to an extent but not at the expense of my bank account.
Get into it. Discount would be appreciated thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by akaroa1
People will be dying to make you rich.
Is there a “chat” where all the places we have had good service, pricing etc is? Would be good to know who is good to deal with and who is in the league of HnF. Thoughts, suggestions?
I mean, fair context and all, Comparitovely our government has been massivly restrictive and aggressive with the management of this shit. There is no magic wand anyone could have waved that would have stopped the economy crashing. Its been a bubble ripe to burst for the last while anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woody
For hunting and fishing gear support direct to consumer and non distributor models (55six, cactus etc as much as possible.) Competition benifits the consumer.
End of the day this will be like any other recession. Ride it out, start spending when you can and confidence will restore. Great time for whichever government we end up with to borrow and spend big on Infrastructure.
Govt was too slow to act. Consequences could have been less.
There is a good service type thread or two on here I just cant recall the exact titles atmQuote:
Originally Posted by Fat ninja
I intend to do a lot more bullet casting to save some dosh.
Avoiding Chinese made stuff is difficult but definitely buy local made if possible.
To be fair woody we will never know. That’s in our past. We have to make the moves going forward count. Hopefully we get it right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woody
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There has to be an accounting and a reckoning.
The COL fucked it up. We warned them. Cinders was focused on Burqa-virtue. You can disagree. Whatever.
I thought the border should have been shut to all non-citizens/residents much sooner, but that had to be balanced against harm to New Zealanders due to economic factors. There are still people saying the effects of lockdown are going to be worse than the virus itself. I don't agree, but it is a valid opinion. I'm glad I don't have to make those decisions.
Back to the topic. I find another issue is being able to see items locally. I like to buy good quality shit. And often not just go with the norm etc. Trying to find a set of Leica Ultravids recently was quite difficult. And locals require you to buy it to get it in for you. Luckily I found the last set at a local photography shop. Happy to pay a little more than I could get them online. But in cases where they are just going to order them I may as well do it myself. I have been buying a few things from a local provider recently. I asked whether they could query about an item and they made it seem a huge hassle. I had taken a $400 hit buying things from them I could get online for a lot less. I obviously feel like I've done them a favour and feel they should maybe show a bit more euthasiuasm in helping because if I can buy it online for 400 less in NZ they made atleast that much or better sharpen up on business as I'm not happy to pay for poor business decisions just to buy local.
Also on niche items like I'm looking at setting up a bow at the moment and we don't have the options I want. And for the price of middle rate gear here I can bring in top of the line gear from the US for the same or less even with the shit conversion. Black Gold Sights aren't available here as far as I can tell we have limited rest options etc. I will buy my bow here as I can find most options here but I can't go try them all but luckily I tried a bunch in the US at Pro shops my cousin uses.
I'm a Montana Native so I often find myself supporting montana companies as they make some of the best gear hunting wise. I brought a Stone glacier pack when in Bozeman last year when I stopped in a the factory. They gave me a 10% professional discount as I said I was about to head to Canada wrangling then knocked of 5% extra. They spent half and hour fitting me and showing me all the features etc. Let me know which accessories weren't suitable for my intention, talked to me about the unlimited sheep hints etc. Then at checkout they told me to go pick out a short and it was free. I didn't need the shirt but it made me feel appreciated and I will talk them up any opportunity I get as the pack is awesome but more so the guys that run it are. Some local businesses could learn a lot from the US market.
I see how you did this. True too.Quote:
Originally Posted by sightpicture
It will change my purchasing decisions if the shit Im ordering from China goes missing in the mail like it did last year after the other bullshit event where Cinders turned NZ on its head.
I don't buy a lot new. Usually second hand.
I usually tend to buy stuff from nz retailers if the price is reasonable. I factor in the cost overseas and how long til I get it.
I prefer to have it straight away if they're reasonably priced and have a local human being that I can annoy if there's any issues as opposed to emails back and forth when they might not be obliged to do much for me.
No doubt. We’ll have to get out of lockdown first though....emergency powers and all that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Woody
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Not disagreeing. Just gotta make the right moves going forward whilst taking on board the lessons of the past. I not saying ‘THEY’ will but yeah....Quote:
Originally Posted by sightpicture
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Think you'll find what's on the retailers shelves today will be priced at as good as it gets. When the results of the $ kicks in prices will only go one way, UP.
You only need to look at the way freezers increased in price to see the lack of respect kiwi retailers have for their customers.
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There will be a bit of that thinking going on....Quote:
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Yep, the writing was on the wall in Europe a long time before our inept crew took action.
And they only had to look at what Singapore did for what action to take.
Again, in the context of what other governments (say australia or the states) are doing what our government has done is far more effective. Sure its not perfect but its hardly like they have a crystal ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by sightpicture
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Originally Posted by Woody
(Dont take this the wrong way, I agree, I just think its actually pretty fucking hard to manage calls like this and nowhere near as black and white as its made out to be.)
Could be a whole lot worse, adjusted for our population, if we had handled it like America we would have hit the 100 dead mark by now
