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Are the beretta A400 semi's worth the money been thinking of buying one for duck shooting this year. retiring the old rem 870 i have been using as i have i few extra $$ these days,
Dont want to buy something cheaper and regret it but also don't wanna fork out for a name.
They are a good auto, try one before you buy in case it don't fit you. A cheapy that fits is far better than $3500 that doesn't.
The Stoger 3000 are just as good and made by Beretta.
I have had A LOT of different semis. Benelli Vinci, Benelli Super Black Eagle 3, Stoger, A400 Extreme, A400 Light and a remington versa max. The stoger and remington were both a complete waste of time and complete pieces of shit. All of the rest were fantastic and were only sold to have something new. I goose cull, shoot sporting clays and of course duck hunt with the same gun, so i get to know them pretty well. The new A00 extreme plus is without a doubt the best semi auto i have ever fired! and that is something coming from a man raised as a benelli fan boy.
Remington versamax semi auto.......you cannot go wrong...I have 2 of them......not cheap,but not expensive as far as shotguns can go.....the Beretta is about the same cost as the Remington....I don’t think you’ll go wrong withv either.....both reliable,good name,mainly preference..Ive shot both and like both.....good choices either way
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Originally Posted by muka88
Mate your old 870 is the work horse of the pump guns(I have also had one) so I’d recommend going to the work horse of the semis and get a Benelli m2 I’ve Had one for 3 seasons and it’s a no BS simple reliable gun. It comes with a shim kit to help adjust any fitting problems but for me was never needed.
i have had a few semi auto's over the years, Winchester, Fabarm (soft shooter- gas) Benelli m2 , a Benelli Vinci (which my Daughter now uses) and for the last 2 season's an A400.
i won't be selling the A400.. the only fault that any gas operated shotgun has,is that you have to use clean burning ammo,
or they will jam, not a big issue as they are easy and quick to clean in the field if needed.
Like any rifle or shotgun if you can try before you buy you will find one that FITS and that is far more important than the name on the barrel...
don't buy that kemen shit or some eley loads then.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUNTY
dirty as
Ive had 5 Remington 870.s love them.
and the day I cant crank the pump I,l shift to a double ormore likely a semi when steel becomes mandatory for 20,s
i've had a beretta 1201, saiga 12, winchester 1400 and a fabarm
would take the fabarm over the lot if you are shooting lots of rounds as its very easy on the shoulder.
from what i hear the turkish alloy used onthe stoeger doesnt stand up as long as italian alloy so it would come down to how much you shoot it
While I don't own one I have had a shot out of the Browning Maxus and it comes up very nice for me. It falls within your A400 budget to. While Beretta make nice shotguns I do not believe they are any better than the Browning ( but Beretta have way better marketing). All comes down to what fits you best.
I would not buy a Browning Semi personally,(and I shoot a Browning B725 quite often).Quote:
Originally Posted by Got-ya
The A400 is currently I think one of the best semi's you can get for a hunting gun. I think out of the 18 or so guys I regularly shoot with almost all hunt with an A400. If you are looking for something to shoot a lot of clays however "dirty" guns get real old real fast, everyone has moved to the next station and started shooting while you are still picking up you empties!!!
Quote,,,I would not buy a Browning Semi personally,
Why?????
Because they swing like a club for me, they are to low in the comb (for me) the A400 is just a better gun.Quote:
Originally Posted by A330driver
I have a Browning Maxus and like it. It was the only gun I picked up when I was looking that felt right. No issues 3 years later.
Yes they are worth it. I have four. Make sure it fits and swings and then if your comfortable buy it. Very good resale too
That’s the great thing about variety.... there’s something for everyone and everybody
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Originally Posted by mikee
While your comment that it swings like a club and does not fit you is perfectly valid. That your 18 mates shoot an A400 so it must be better is not. The sad truth is that in NZ Browning importers Cameron sports has done a terrible job for years marketing and supporting this brand. In fact I would go so far as to say Browning survives here in spite of them not because of them. Walk into a Hunting and Fishing for example and if you found a new Maxus that you could fondle I would be shocked, want a demo gun you can try? fat chance. However rock up to any one of many eye opener shoots around the country and chances are there will be a Beretta stand with guns to try (to their credit). People buy what they can hold and try, and if it is not in stock which for Brownings happens only in the occasional store they don't get sold. No one would suggest that a high end BMW is better than a Corolla but which one sells more?.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikee
Browning gold 12g 3 inch for me. My old mans versamax has problems with unloading it because the bolt release button catches. Or is it the bolt lock im not sure. Anyway I wouldnt buy one
Ditto on yr comments @Got-ya.......I too,have noticed the same thing in kiwi......I browse the selection(s)like everyone else,mainly out of interest.....the saying...”different strokes for different folks” comes to mind...........thanks for the reply mike,we are all different,when spending that type of money ,you buy something that fits “your” mold.....
escort man from way back and if ya dont like it hup the lotta yas!!
ive got a shotty her which possibly came from dunedin in 1865 or therabouts and to my knowledge was used by a late cousin for ducks in 1963 before dad caught him using smokeless ammo and confiscated it .my uncle also has my late fathers shotgun which when time is right ill diplomatically seek to return it to my collection.
what makes me laugh in these modern times is the rubbishing of so called "budget brands"
One of CHCH's more prominent "shooters" gooseman extraordinaire"endless promoter of the latest shotty in the shop took a bog standard escort S/A off the rack and trialled it with his coterie in a solid w/e goose hunt on molesworth . .
I NEARLY FUCKING CHOKED ON MY ALE. THIS RECTAL DISCHARGE when i wanted another shotty tried every trick in the book to dissuade me from buying my 2nd hand escort ,spend another $400 and get a quality stoeger. Yeah fuckin right.
I made the anal sphincter wait 2weeks before i bought that Escort .Regrets ZILCH aint karma a bitch -comes back and bites ya right in the arse,
his shelf gun was handed round like a whore at a Hells angels pissup ,fed every thing under the sun .never missed a beat.and when he took it to a prominent CHCH gunsmth For an autopsy ,Dr gunsmith declared the guts looked brand new(superman candidly admitted an estimated 600-1000rds had gone through that gun on that outing)
I also had good success with the Browning Maxus, only sold it to buy a Miroku.
Honestly the only Beretta shotgun I ever liked was the Urika and that was so over engineered and finicky to clean I gave up on it.
Versamax has been mentioned but also take a look at the Remington V3, little brother to the versamax and in my opinion every bit as good except you can't run 3.5 in shells if that is an issue
It has the best magazine cut off I've ever seen and the gas system is so easy and simple.
They are 1/2 and maybe a bit less of the cost of the 400 depending on where you shop and a limited lifetime warranty. Show me a Beretta that has that.
For the difference in price from the 400 you can buy a shit load of shells and diesel .
If you go the a400 way pm me as I might be able to put you into a near new one a bit cheaper than new