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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Allen View Post
    Man you are such a pessimist! There was some effective shooting and killing tame birds has to be way more for filling than breaking clays.

    If it doesn't affect wild populations then I have no problem. But lets get some monitoring and an honest discussion happening.
    Yes, lets...ahem...
    ...amitie, respect mutuel et amour...

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    Man you are such a pessimist! There was some effective shooting and killing tame BIRDS has to be way more for filling than breaking clays.

    If it doesn't affect wild populations then I have no problem. But lets get some MONITORING and an honest discussion happening.
    only if your the kind of gun owner/shooter who thinks poking your weapon of choice thru a 8ft fence after chasing the unrestricted game from one side of the fenced paddock to the other is fulfilling.

    honest discussion went out with gentlemen jack marshall and norm kirk but the only way we,l get anywhere is to keep the bastards jumping.
    [B]we have to be chaperoned to view the rolls??...sounds like something out of one of George Orwell's novels..[B]

    i know Eeebees i bloody near laughed till i cried with the pathetic absurdity of it but it do make you wonder whats to hide
    ''we have to protect firearms owners ''they might say?.
    nah by the time you figured out who was a fisho and who a gunno you,d probably be in the queenie elizabeth hotel for the aged and bewildered anyway.
    [U][B]What is so disappointing is that when you act as some have, your credibility suffers more than your ego might admit to...confidence and respect can be eroded with a single scrawl of a pen, or a lack of the scrawl of a pen...[B][U]
    but a healthy bank balance lasts till you croak Eebees and im sure the admiration and socophancy of those you think are your friends make up for the losses. NOT
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    Quote Originally Posted by EeeBees View Post
    Yes, lets...ahem...
    Omnipotence doesn't require it- nor a legitimate election for that matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Allen View Post
    Omnipotence doesn't require it- nor a legitimate election for that matter.
    i would say tim frank discussion and questioning is the very enemy of omnipotence ask stalin hitler or saddam even.
    its why so many tyrants spent most of thier energys on suppressing any opposition or even questioning of thier rule.not to mention paranoicaly hiding any crushing truths.
    problem is if the truth is if things are as suspected is the alternative of government commisioners palatable??
    i know the arguement ''that could things get any worse '' well yes with government interference they bloody well could.
    imagine maggie barry in charge of our future??
    where as the rot in f&g could be excorsized by the exposure and vilification of the elements seeking thier own fifedoms.
    the idea is to sink f&g from within but make it look like it was others fault,
    doc ex,es seem to be gaining posistions on councils when most havent got a clue who they are and vice versa ex f&g,ers are turning up on doc staff.
    who does a one stop shop with government controlled funding access to our licence fee,s and political appointeees suit ??
    not fuckin us i can assure you of that.
    but a permit system for guides and a different cheaper [maybe]licence system out of the one outfit with no pesky public intererence or agendas that might restrict a goverments plans for larger privatisation of our natural resourses or agricultural expansion.
    sounds like capitalist heaven to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsp follower View Post
    i would say tim frank discussion and questioning is the very enemy of omnipotence ask stalin hitler or saddam even.
    its why so many tyrants spent most of thier energys on suppressing any opposition or even questioning of thier rule.not to mention paranoicaly hiding any crushing truths.
    problem is if the truth is if things are as suspected is the alternative of government commisioners palatable??
    i know the arguement ''that could things get any worse '' well yes with government interference they bloody well could.
    imagine maggie barry in charge of our future??
    where as the rot in f&g could be excorsized by the exposure and vilification of the elements seeking thier own fifedoms.
    the idea is to sink f&g from within but make it look like it was others fault,
    doc ex,es seem to be gaining posistions on councils when most havent got a clue who they are and vice versa ex f&g,ers are turning up on doc staff.
    who does a one stop shop with government controlled funding access to our licence fee,s and political appointeees suit ??
    not fuckin us i can assure you of that.
    but a permit system for guides and a different cheaper [maybe]licence system out of the one outfit with no pesky public intererence or agendas that might restrict a goverments plans for larger privatisation of our natural resourses or agricultural expansion.
    sounds like capitalist heaven to me.
    GSP follower...I really do want to understand what this is all about and what your grievance with F&G actually is. Its all been really difficult to follow, not being an insider and all.
    The above post of yours reads like a ramble of conspiracy theory that makes no sense to me.

    Could you possibly spell out exactly what your specific concerns are so that I can begin to understand?

    I have no other interest beyond wanting to understand what the hell all of this is about. I'm not a Government agent, or anything like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsp follower View Post
    i would say tim frank discussion and questioning is the very enemy of omnipotence ask stalin hitler or saddam even.
    Yes it is

    Quote Originally Posted by gsp follower View Post
    problem is if the truth is if things are as suspected is the alternative of government commisioners palatable??
    i know the arguement ''that could things get any worse ''

    who does a one stop shop with government controlled funding access to our licence fee,s and political appointeees suit ??
    not fuckin us i can assure you of that.
    Yeah I'm not so sure. A commission would be bound by legislation and policy or at least be held closer to it. Lets not forget the legislative framework is in place to manage sports fish and game in the recreational interest of license buyers- F&G choose to ignore what it wants and ignores by enlarge legitimate enquiry, partially through the leadership of a meglamaniac but largely because "leverage" has become a large operating influence.

    With a commission in place improper activity could be held to account without the fear being held that it would be detrimental to our interests by loosing "elected councils"(). Conflicted decision making more obvious. Reality is our interests or more precisely our heritage and legacy aren't being well managed.

    I could care either way. I just wish I could avoid funding what its become.

 

 

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