Thread: Lead in .410 vs steel in 20

so if you apply the old rule of two shot sizes IN REVERSE ..... you asking 28grms of #8s to kill birds...yeah sure if everything is in your favour...NO WAY will you break bones....
the difference between an oz load of #6-7-8s and a 1 1/4oz of #4s back in the lead only days was huge...less wounded birds with #4s


I find steel #-2s or #3s work much much better for us than #4s.....and yes we have tried a few different #4s

the thing with .410 is you HAVE to realise its limited payload and stick to under 30 yards...under 20 is better still...I recall thinking I was some kind of Davey Crocket x dead eye dick when shot a hare at 30 paces......it was 20 paces more than my usual shots on rabbits,often would get into less than 10....I used the wee .410 to good effect by getting in close.

I reloaded for our son and used mixture of shot sizes #3-4-5-6-8 all in together,the difference between a 3/4oz load and 1/2oz load is huge....and many folks buy the 2 1/2" shells and wonder why they struggle to kill birds,there is simply sweet fcuk all pellets to do anything,some loads RIO for one are LESS than half n oz...totally completely hopeless for anything....

the box of steel clay loads were by gamebore and I THINK were #8
I used 8 of them rapid fire through defender at possum up pine tree who was keeping us awake in camp...just cause I could...in morning instead of a dead possum hanging from branches there was a blind possum very much alive (I felt like shit) it was soon dispatched with .410
and the .410 is deadly on possums in trees,full choke load of #4s and they die very nicely indeed.

as for writeups of folks killing geese with steel clay loads....I remember reading article where fella shot zebra with a 17/06!!!!!!! one has to feel sorry for zebra.

if ducks are facing you wings out neck stretched,they arent hard to kill,1/2 second later they flared away after burners lit and tail on to you....definately a lot harder to kill cleanly then. you gots to break bones.....