Thread: Press release from Southland Fish and Game re sub gauge lead

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Disclaimer!
I don't hunt birds or even use a shotgun much these days.

Is there any real hard scientific evidence that lead shot in the waterways when/if ingested by birds causes serious harm?
How does this harm if any compare to the ingestion of rusting steel?
And how does a lead pellet in living flesh compare with a lead pellet.?

As a non bird shooter and very very occasional shotgun user even i am aware that these days shot gun ammo is available that is non toxic and ballisticly superior to lead but it is very expensive. No doubt the keenest waterfoul hunters would use this ammo almost regardless of price if it patterned to there liking to have any advantage they can.

But what about the majority ?

I am interested mainly because we as hunters are becoming the easily overlooked minority in this country whatever your quarry .

The best thing we all can do as hunters for our sports recreation and animals is get more people involved.

Once again I don't hunt birds but from the outside looking in it looks like F&G are determined to turn the sport into a old boys club where only the rich can shoot on private land.
That's a pretty extreme view of course but that's the way that from the outside it appears to be heading.

And bird hunting is not alone here.

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I payed 45 bucks this year for a single box of 20g Steel and it was Shit. Booted me into next week, tough on my gun and me, Absolute bollocks for pattern though it killed like thor inside 15-20 yards aftr that woundie city. Went back to lead and happy days to 40+ yards. If I were shooting ducks more than occaisionally I couldn't afford the volume of ammo I would need with my lousy shooting. Where as its 100 bucks for a slab of 5's or 6's or 7's, and you know the volume I shoot . Given us sub-guage users are a very small percentage of total it was really only window dressing anyway. More about been seen to do something than actually doing something. We (sub-guage shooters) must be hell on wheels hunters if the reason for bugger all ducks is us
Common Sense has prevailed, wha hooooooo