Welcome guest, is this your first visit? Create Account now to join.
  • Login:

Welcome to the NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.

Gunworks Night Vision NZ


User Tag List

Results 1 to 15 of 108
Like Tree29Likes

Thread: Proposed banning of lead shot in sub gauge shotguns report from Southland

Threaded View

Mike H Proposed banning of lead shot... 20-02-2013, 08:04 PM
R93 FFS! That's the best bit of... 20-02-2013, 08:33 PM
Kiwi-Hunter It’s going to turn into a... 04-03-2013, 01:57 AM
Toby Why do retards run things and... 20-02-2013, 08:39 PM
Munsey The fist bit was utter... 20-02-2013, 09:07 PM
R93 I am happy using 12g steel as... 20-02-2013, 09:14 PM
Neckshot I use twelve g and all my... 20-02-2013, 09:14 PM
Barefoot I'm curious to see the... 20-02-2013, 09:34 PM
gsp follower if you cant dazzle them with... 21-02-2013, 12:12 AM
R93 Don't think it's fair giving... 21-02-2013, 01:10 AM
mikee I would agree, cant shoot the... 21-02-2013, 08:06 AM
gsp follower i would agree if not for the... 21-02-2013, 10:03 AM
R93 Ha Ha didn't know that! It... 21-02-2013, 11:06 AM
Lentil Thanks Mike H for posting... 21-02-2013, 08:30 PM
gsp follower i think theyd ha:thum have... 21-02-2013, 08:39 PM
Toby I read that too. I agree with... 21-02-2013, 08:47 PM
Wirehunt Yer well, the fucking ducks... 22-02-2013, 01:38 AM
kotuku having personally PM'd Prof:... 22-02-2013, 02:30 PM
Mike H KWB, I see you've joined... 22-02-2013, 07:11 PM
gsp follower evidence thats a laugh coming... 23-02-2013, 01:42 PM
Mike H Shooters wound ducks, not the... 25-02-2013, 09:26 PM
Toby Maybe policing waterways may... 22-02-2013, 07:16 PM
Mike H Our rangers are very active... 22-02-2013, 07:27 PM
Pointer You'd have a heart attack in... 22-02-2013, 11:20 PM
Toby Dont neet to be rising fees.... 22-02-2013, 07:36 PM
Wirehunt FFS. And the lead in the... 22-02-2013, 07:39 PM
Mike H Wirehunt, you possibly have... 22-02-2013, 07:44 PM
R93 The trouble with you types... 22-02-2013, 09:35 PM
Barefoot Mike H During the research... 22-02-2013, 09:43 PM
Mike H If someone can explain to me... 22-02-2013, 09:49 PM
gsp follower hardcase when feeding leads... 23-02-2013, 01:46 PM
R93 I just cant be fucked... 22-02-2013, 10:25 PM
jakewire Mick H, I respect the time... 22-02-2013, 10:51 PM
Mike H Are you talking 12 or 20... 22-02-2013, 10:55 PM
R93 I would have thought it was... 22-02-2013, 10:58 PM
jakewire Correct. 22-02-2013, 11:02 PM
Mike H Thats a worry then, their... 22-02-2013, 11:06 PM
jakewire Fine Mike, then they will... 22-02-2013, 11:13 PM
Mike H Why will they stop? The... 22-02-2013, 11:21 PM
jakewire No you don't get it do you... 23-02-2013, 12:07 AM
R93 Thats pretty sad having to... 23-02-2013, 12:12 AM
kotuku by the way mike H-you owe KWB... 22-02-2013, 11:10 PM
Mike H Sorry to KWB, its the other... 22-02-2013, 11:20 PM
Pointer Thats because Southland still... 22-02-2013, 11:27 PM
kotuku absolute and utter piffle... 22-02-2013, 11:43 PM
gadgetman The writing style of kotuku... 23-02-2013, 12:05 AM
Mike H 1. None of the submissions... 23-02-2013, 12:40 AM
gadgetman From what I have seen around... 23-02-2013, 01:57 AM
gsp follower but all the people supporting... 23-02-2013, 01:52 PM
gadgetman I stand corrected. I can see... 25-02-2013, 08:50 AM
Neckshot Chuckling like a feeding hen... 22-02-2013, 11:12 PM
Mike H Thats why we're taking... 22-02-2013, 11:35 PM
Pointer Can you honestly say that?... 22-02-2013, 11:45 PM
Mike H Yes it does Pointer. Because... 22-02-2013, 11:50 PM
Pointer How many years do you have... 22-02-2013, 11:54 PM
R93 FFS! All of a sudden too!... 23-02-2013, 12:00 AM
Mike H We have no idea because no... 23-02-2013, 12:10 AM
Mike H If by the other side you mean... 22-02-2013, 11:45 PM
crzyman I cant believe your all... 22-02-2013, 11:52 PM
jakewire And we are not arguing, we... 23-02-2013, 12:10 AM
Mike H I'll leave you guys to your... 22-02-2013, 11:54 PM
Pointer Have you asked what shooters... 22-02-2013, 11:56 PM
R93 Your between a rock and a... 22-02-2013, 11:58 PM
Pointer Bingo. Address these issues... 23-02-2013, 12:03 AM
Mike H On the subject of steel R93 I... 23-02-2013, 12:09 AM
Pointer What are you trying to do... 23-02-2013, 12:20 AM
R93 Fuck it, I will say it, I am,... 23-02-2013, 12:42 AM
Mike H Remove a scientifically... 23-02-2013, 12:22 AM
Pointer I actually don't know why you... 23-02-2013, 12:28 AM
Mike H Wad Wizard Choke Tubes -... 23-02-2013, 12:44 AM
R93 I think you will find that a... 23-02-2013, 12:57 AM
kotuku mike ,in a similar vein to... 23-02-2013, 06:51 PM
Toby How many ducks were found... 25-02-2013, 09:32 PM
Mike H Toby, I don't have the... 25-02-2013, 09:45 PM
gadgetman Likewise I have not seen you... 25-02-2013, 09:56 PM
Mike H Gadgetman, there is no need... 25-02-2013, 10:03 PM
gadgetman So the lead ban for 12g & 10g... 25-02-2013, 10:52 PM
Toby Has F&G done any count or... 25-02-2013, 10:08 PM
Mike H How's this? This is from the... 25-02-2013, 10:33 PM
Wirehunt I recall hearing some states... 25-02-2013, 10:23 PM
Mike H Wirehunt, in many places the... 25-02-2013, 10:37 PM
veitnamcam Is this scientific evidence... 25-02-2013, 10:47 PM
Mike H Gadgetman, I don't intend to... 25-02-2013, 11:02 PM
Lentil Let me know if you don't... 28-02-2013, 08:13 PM
mikee Exactly, nothing personal but... 28-02-2013, 08:54 PM
Wirehunt If it happens in my area that... 25-02-2013, 11:05 PM
R93 I for one, do not agree with... 25-02-2013, 11:09 PM
gadgetman Mike H, I am not going tit... 26-02-2013, 01:02 AM
gsp follower dont believe nth canterbury... 26-02-2013, 09:04 PM
scottrods Most of Germany and some of... 28-02-2013, 06:55 PM
Happy Suppose thanks for the heads... 28-02-2013, 09:15 PM
Toby What would happen if we... 28-02-2013, 09:19 PM
Pointer Seen it in Aussie Toby, been... 28-02-2013, 10:07 PM
kotuku It appears our mike has slid... 01-03-2013, 04:26 PM
gsp follower nothings certain unfortunatly... 01-03-2013, 05:28 PM
mikee I am not closed minded. I... 01-03-2013, 06:04 PM
john m I will retire my 16 ga also 01-03-2013, 07:07 PM
gsp follower your pretty safe there mikee... 01-03-2013, 09:44 PM
gsp follower please register your distaste... 03-03-2013, 04:19 PM
Mike H It was never going to be put... 16-03-2013, 07:39 PM
kotuku One can only hope the... 16-03-2013, 11:03 PM
gadgetman From what I gather they... 17-03-2013, 10:57 AM
kotuku gadget-mores the pity... 17-03-2013, 02:59 PM
gsp follower bet that changes next time... 17-03-2013, 07:26 PM
Malhunting Yep its never an election... 18-03-2013, 08:20 PM
  1. #11
    R93
    R93 is offline
    Member R93's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Westland NZ
    Posts
    16,102
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike H View Post
    On the subject of steel R93 I can honestly say I have no problem with it. I use a wad wizard choke which I believe helps and am a reasonable shot I feel which helps also.

    What isn't known amongst the people on either forum is that like several of my fellow councillors I have access to a 20 gauge(my wife's). I took it out on the Sunday of opening weekend last year and using 3" 1 1/8 ounce of lead fives didn't find it killed ducks any better than the Remington 3" 1 1/4 ounce of steel 3s I was using the day before.

    I'm not sure what people think we're trying to do here? We are hunters like you who want to do more for the sport based on the facts put in front of us. So far for the last 6 months that this debate has gone on down here the only thing people keep raising is the wounding rate of steel. It is not an issue with me, the guys I hunt with or any of the other councillors.

    Some of us on the council shoot ducks in paddocks with lead. We get a similar ratio of wounded ducks with that. It is not the be all and end all magic bullet. Some people have had such a bad experience from when the first cheap shitty loads of steel came into the country that they've forgotten we wounded ducks before that with lead IMO.

    Fuck it, I will say it, I am, when seasoned, well above reasonable with a shotgun. However since going too steel I have had too fire so many more follow up shots than I have had too, with lead. This is also evident in my birds in hand to shots fired ratio.
    I fired on average another 15-20 rounds to get my limits on opening compared to years previous using lead. I always take the same amount of ammo when I go out, and for interest sake count whats left compared to whats shot. I get sick of seeing a ball of feathers and the fuckers struggling away. I have an decent clay machine and practice with steel loads. I break the same amount of targets I would expect with lead.
    I do agree lead is not magic, but it is way more effective in my experience.
    I must get one of these magic chokes? A restriction in the muzzle that will make my steel shot more effective as it leaves the wad?
    Last edited by R93; 23-02-2013 at 12:51 AM.
    Do what ya want! Ya will anyway.

 

 

Similar Threads

  1. Interesting article Re- lead shot
    By Philipo in forum Game Bird Hunting
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 16-05-2012, 02:36 AM
  2. gregs roar report
    By greghud in forum Hunting
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 04-04-2012, 08:13 PM
  3. half-assed range report
    By gimp in forum Reloading and Ballistics
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 09-01-2012, 11:46 AM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Welcome to NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums! We see you're new here, or arn't logged in. Create an account, and Login for full access including our FREE BUY and SELL section Register NOW!!