Deerstalkers mis-identify pukekos Hunters kill takahe during pukeko cull - National - NZ Herald News
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Deerstalkers mis-identify pukekos Hunters kill takahe during pukeko cull - National - NZ Herald News
Makes a change from DOC killing them I guess! They'll be glad to have someone else to blame this time.
Ngai Tahu where none to pleased , would not like to be the person(s) getting arse kicking by them . Good to see them also mention the 5 wood pigeons (no double standards)
Takahe sandwiches better be the shit
Takahe hors d'oeuvres!
It was a founding member of NZDA who found them (again) so lets just call this square?
Thats a shame but lets keep it real. I seem to remember a DOC guy shooting one once on the coast.
Darwin had a theory once. If an Auckland NZDA member can get one then maybe they should be extinct. Ha Ha Ha Ha
Fuc i hope that was funny coz ive been drinking again and dont want a telling off
Someone fucking up and killing one in the past doesn't excuse this fuckup
Poor form
Not only did some idiot[s] negligently kill 4 of 250 odd birds remaining of an endangered species, their fuckup reflects very badly on the rest of us, as does anyone that laughs it off
This makes me really mad!
Deerstalkers to shoot gamebirds??
To be fair most of the members are city folk who may get out once a month to take their gun for a walk. They are NOT experienced hunters and certainly not the professionals required to do a delicate job like this!
:pissed off:
Don't the game bird relegations come in? i.e must be inflight?
Being that they cant fly ...........
Ill put my hand up asking for an ass kicking session for the shooter
It is quite clever of DOC, get someone else to do a job for free (probably) and then when it gets buggered up they have someone else to blame.
The report did mention they were told to only shoot them on the wing........Quote:
Originally Posted by 199p
"The hunters were carefully briefed on how to tell the difference between them, including instructions to only shoot birds on the wing, he said."
Not good at all. Takahe breeding pairs form very strong bonds. Considering that only a portion of the 200-250 remaining birds are at a viable breeding age, something like this can have a massive impact on genetic diversity and species survival.
It's gotten to a point where chicks from one pair are sent to a different part of the country to increase diversity. One of the female chicks from the pair at Karori Sanctury (when they were still breeding at Mana Is) went up to Mangatauteri.
He probalbly miss understood on thought he said IN the wing, theres bugger all difference in the words? Where are the professional, experience people when you need them.DOC Have a poor record in this area IMHO
They are all lurking here Macca :ORLY: Seems like DOC can do no right for a lot of folks on here...Quote:
Originally Posted by Maca49
presumembly doc let them know takehe were there and pointed out the simalarities??
tragic mistake but in the scheme of things pales in comparison to what 1080,s bowled over.
gives doc an excuse not to work with nzda tho.
Should have painted a white cross on the Takahe before the event. Hope the meat didnt go to waste, Should have a a ceremonial lunch for the fat pigs in parliment.
Who cares? Honestly how many of you would even know they didnt exsist anymore if they all died and no one said a thing. Better things to spend money and time on rather then 250 fucking birds
Toby when you see there natural habitat , you will then understand what a cool bird they are . We got to fly over the Murchison mts to the wapiti blocks . Impressive to say the least ! .
Toby, valid point of view, but I really hope you get to a point where trying to save species like Kakapo, Takahe and Tuatara means something.
The are absolutely unique, and tell the story of how NZ's ecosystem is so different from anything else in a fantastic way. Most folks would look at a Tuatara and go "oh, a big lizard", but they are endemic at the order level (uniqueness to the nth degree!)
Deerstalkers hunt big brown animals that don't fly.
Game bird shooters including Game bird clubs and F&G hunt flying game birds and make it their aim to be able to identify different types of bird.
Yet another DOC cock up, where does it stop?!!!
Using Volunteer's for a cull in the first place = Stupid move No 1
Then this
[QUOTE][/Deerstalkers hunt big brown animals that don't fly.
Game bird shooters including Game bird clubs and F&G hunt flying game birds and make it their aim to be able to identify different types of bird.QUOTE]
and then heaven forbid why wasn't the Bigger Purple Pheasant "disappeared under the pile
Stupidity knows no boundaries.
Members of the NZDA. Labelling them as just hunters is perpetuating the myth that it was folks who only hunt deer - the media is trying to id them as guys with guns having a blat, which is not the case.""It shows complete incompetence on DOC's part to bring in these Barry Crump-type good keen men." - Labour MP Rino Tirakatene.Quote:
Originally Posted by stug
There's loads of people who are members of NZDA who don't hunt, and who are clay shooters, duck & game shooters, target shooters.
They were also shot by shotgun, not a T3 ;)
Kscott our newsroom could work it out this morning, Producers trying to understand what it meant, how can you shoot them in the wing.
Just ignorance of our sports. I was not in any way denigrating NZDA as I think they do a fine outstanding job.
You would think a Government Dept. would be required to source the best people for the most professional results, and yes I bet deerstalkers (Assn. or not) would be in that mix.
If I offended any deerstalkers, sincere apologies, but it was to good a shot to not take it, in jest, in jest I add.
lets face it -these birds hopefully were here one minute the gone unlike a bloody lot that suffered a lingering horrible death at the hands of DOC 1080.
Doc of course are too spineless to ever admit the wrongdoing and others which some canterbury folk are aware of but thats just repeating history eh.see old mad maggie the TV marigold mauler put her 5 bobs worth in.Katie Bradford(parliamentary TV reporter) ,bless her wee cotton knickers must have bumped into Maggie at the MPs canteen in parliament (or do they suck on the gin in bellamies for breakfast.?)and regaled her with the suitably tragic version of the tale!
toby .....that's a terrible fuking attitude
What I find hard to believe is that the shooters did not identify there target beyond doubt whether is a bird or deer the same rules apply which nzda
Rules strongly adhere to
That's the problem Toby, they're not Fucking Birds!:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Toby
Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwijames
Yes, sadly ironic isn't it, 'Doc' Orbell, one of the founders of NZDA in 1937, rediscovered the Takahe in 1948.
He'd be turning in his grave..
All that hard work done by volunteers gone to waste.....tragic
B
actually I would disagree as they look similar and would be hard to pick the difference if they were flying away from you at "Warp Factor 9, Mr Sulu"Quote:
Originally Posted by jadeboyd7
but more of a concern
If I'm not mistaken Takahe are FLIGHTLESS so who was shooting them "not in flight"........................................... ............
In that reasoning alot of protected waterfowl are fair game then
I see Toby's point of view, the whole situation to me is a sham while we continue to poison habitats from the air and DOC has its head up its behind, I struggle to support the people trying to save birds in NZ. Cats Ferrets,Stoats Rats,Mice, some high end Moari thinking it's still ok to eat certain species, it's like pushing melted butter up a porcupines arse with a hot needle! We need a sane plan, but it ain't gonna happen with Mrs Smith and DOC, IMHO
After having watched 1 news tonight and being told that the hunters were breifed to only shoot birds in the air and were even shown a live Takahe I can only say that this is a very disappointing result.
More bad press for hunters in general.
Bad for NZDA is bad for all hunters member or not.
Doc have been working well with NZDA locally for the benefit of both party's tho I have privately heard of safety concerns from a involved member.
It would appear NZDA could do better in screening/training the membership joining these cull type events, That is where it gets really difficult tho...who is competent/capable and how do you determine that?
First shot head height, second shot in flight, but I've moved on:DQuote:
Originally Posted by mikee
That comment also tells me that a deer looks like a cowQuote:
Originally Posted by mikee
The retard antis are now using pages from this forum to back up their anti hunting comments on the Guardian's website
New Zealand conservationists apologise over accidental shooting of endangered takah