Thread: The results are in

Whats your thoughts on the Fish and Game election results now that they're out?

http://fishandgame.org.nz/elections-2015-results

Disappointed to be honest. Hoping Hawkes Bay would have had a better turn out and the opportunity to clean house was used.

There certainly was more interest in the Southland election this year with numbers of voters up by a long way over previous elections. It would seem the call to vote being arranged behind the scenes worked. I'm disappointed that Brad and Lindsay missed out however 8 of the 10 current councillors who stood again got back on.

Originally Posted by Mike H

There certainly was more interest in the Southland election this year with numbers of voters up by a long way over previous elections. It would seem the call to vote being arranged behind the scenes worked. I'm disappointed that Brad and Lindsay missed out however 8 of the 10 current councillors who stood again got back on.

I SEE THAT YOU.L BE BLOODY GLAD YOU DIDNT GO THE HB ROUTE

Disappointed to be honest. Hoping Hawkes Bay would have had a better turn out and the opportunity to clean house was used.]

YOU,VE GOT BIGGER WORRIES THAN THAT KIWI JAMES
if the drop to 8 wasnt legally done ie motioned seconded and passed then things could get more complicated
beware the circling eastern vultures to.

RN, Dave CENTRAL HAWKE’S BAY 340
DULEY, Greg NAPIER 267
MACKIE, James CENTRAL HAWKE’S BAY 241
NIBLETT, Jeff HASTINGS 223
LUMSDEN, John NAPIER 218
BATES, Bruce HASTINGS 206
MCINTOSH, Pete (Pete Mac) HASTINGS 205
WILLIAMS, Kevin HASTINGS 203

i make it 3 3 2 in the faction stakes give or take with bates love for eastern the most upsetting?
eastern staff yes eastern councill interference in hb no. hope the new blood can get hb back to its glory days.

MCKENZIE, Craig ASHBURTON 241

hard luck workingman only 10 in it
you,d a been a gamebird asset.

No need for us to drop the numbers, we were always going to have an election. Interesting to see the ex manager made it onto the HB Council. Don't know how effective he'll be considering it looks like the majority of the incumbents got back on.

Originally Posted by Mike H

No need for us to drop the numbers, we were always going to have an election. Interesting to see the ex manager made it onto the HB Council. Don't know how effective he'll be considering it looks like the majority of the incumbents got back on.

interesting thought mike given he seems to have got the council dropped to 8 and frightened the crap out of the incumbents to the point of attempted character assasination and election smearing.

maths not your strong point mike 3 sitters got the elbow messrs boaler doulding and jobey.

Was it Alice...in wonderland...things got curiouser and curiouser...oooopsss...

Originally Posted by EeeBees

Was it Alice...in wonderland...things got curiouser and curiouser...oooopsss...

more like what a tangled web we weave EeBees.
here a little exercise for you voters/hb licence buyers search the minutes from aprill to june and see if you can find where the councill meet and voted on the numbers drop. good luck cos it dont exist..why aprill cos thats when elections nz were told apparently you,l see for yourself why june comes into it.

Originally Posted by gsp follower

if you can find where the councill meet and voted on the numbers drop. good luck cos it dont exist..why aprill cos thats when elections nz were told apparently you,l see for yourself why june comes into it.

There is one possible explanation, that confirmed minutes have been altered for some reason on the website? That could explain the need to access computers, and why there is no trace of a bone fide decision? But not why there would be a need to do such a thing. I doubt the incentive would be worth the consequence?

258- Altering, concealing, destroying, or reproducing documents with intent to deceive
(1) Every one is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years who, with intent to obtain by deception any property, privilege, service, pecuniary advantage, benefit, or valuable consideration, or to cause loss to any other person,

And yet they are now blaming the previous manager for not putting it on the June agenda. surely when the councillors receive the meeting agenda prior to the meeting that not a single one of them noticed it was on the agenda, that is just sloppy and just pure arrogance to blame someone else for their own failings.

Originally Posted by HB Hunting

And yet they are now blaming the previous manager for not putting it on the June agenda. surely when the councillors receive the meeting agenda prior to the meeting that not a single one of them noticed it was on the agenda, that is just sloppy and just pure arrogance to blame someone else for their own failings.

not the point elections nz were saying they were informed of the decision the morning after the aprill meeting.??
when clearly no decision had been rightfuly made
they,re digging themselves deeper holes with the switching dates of when it was muted discussed anywhere from 12 to 18 months.
problem is the damning evedence of the aprill 2015 minutes and no trail before or after??

258- Altering, concealing, destroying, or reproducing documents with intent to deceive
(1) Every one is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years who, with intent to obtain by deception any property, privilege, service, pecuniary advantage, benefit, or valuable consideration, or to cause loss to any other person,

if theres a confidentiality agreement tim between all parties what could the penalty for abandoning the listing vessel? and fessing up first?if such had happened..
im pickin a labour court case wouldnt prejudice a criminal one and for owning up or reporting criminal action the employment court couldnt dock you for such???.
h bayers ultimatly it is your axe to grind make yourselves heard in hb and wellington email is a wonderful easy thing.you can keep sending till you get a reply unless your emailing hb with the questions i asked tho it appears but numbers will tell it did against southland on a case of no consultation and nzc bypassing.

Have you lodged a complaint?

we were always going to have an election.

how you know that mike

Have you lodged a complaint?

always mike
but bloody southland voters didnt listen to my hidden genius

Well done Mike and all those who were genuinely elected. Thanks also to those that stood but missed out. There is always next time, and hopefully there is a next time. It certainly seems to me that Head Office and the Tourism sector they serve are seeking conglomeration by hook or by crook. Less councils, less councillors, less hurdles. I see that tourism is nipping at the heals of Dairy for export earnings so perhaps less hurdles are required? One thing that irks me a little as a paid up member of my industry lobby group is that I pay for that lobby. With F&G I am taxed to support and expand a sector and in doing so placing more pressure on the very thing we are taxed to enjoy. Very ironic and clever.

Originally Posted by Mike H

Interesting to see the ex manager made it onto the HB Council. Don't know how effective he'll be considering it looks like the majority of the incumbents got back on.

Sorry I can barely see through the smoke screen. It was a pretty serious rift aye. As the new council will be privy to all relevant information on the confidentiality agreement etc etc this council is to some degree predictable- odd for an "election". And now we wait on the "audit" the HB chairman spoke of. This audit will show the same degree of value from Head Office as they placed on the election I suspect. Lets hold our breath together.

as long as the ''bullshit/audit tells me how the process to get to 8 was done and it was a council voted and consulted process,i,l be happy but so far no.ones saying and theres no ''paper trail''??
given what i,ve seen nz council technicly werent involved but they were informed of the intent and a lawyer consulted at the highest level.
so if the process was dodgy i get the feeling plausable deniability will rear its ugly head and hb councill ''doing as it sees fit in its own region''. will be the official line.
great leadership aint it?? drop to 8 ''do as you like'' shoot wild hen pheasant and ignore the party line on ''properties with special conditions /interests'' do as you like???personaly i think they should look at letting the next four highest vote candidates in before the excrement hits the proverbial