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upnorth uplander running dogs in potential... 13-09-2012, 10:08 AM
el borracho yeah me too -I only stick to... 13-09-2012, 10:44 AM
upnorth uplander i dont agree with this 13-09-2012, 12:26 PM
kawhia i don't run my dogs where any... 13-09-2012, 12:22 PM
upnorth uplander it may even be illegel,... 13-09-2012, 12:31 PM
kawhia it actually is............. 13-09-2012, 12:39 PM
RCGSP I avoid 99.9% of potential... 13-09-2012, 02:06 PM
el borracho There are a few cosiderations... 13-09-2012, 02:43 PM
el borracho Years ago i use to train my... 13-09-2012, 02:53 PM
EeeBees Upnorth Uplander, to me to go... 13-09-2012, 07:29 PM
kawhia or allowing ya pig dogs to... 13-09-2012, 07:55 PM
Barefoot Working on the theories in... 13-09-2012, 08:02 PM
el borracho Thats ridiculous , how would... 13-09-2012, 08:08 PM
EeeBees El Borracho, some of us want... 13-09-2012, 08:20 PM
el borracho Fair enough EeeBees, the area... 13-09-2012, 08:27 PM
RCGSP :wut: So you lock your... 13-09-2012, 08:13 PM
EeeBees Yes, my dogs are locked up... 13-09-2012, 08:23 PM
Barefoot Around Auckland, if there's... 13-09-2012, 09:12 PM
moonhunt Muriwai is a hot spot for... 13-09-2012, 07:57 PM
el borracho thats not good but it is a... 13-09-2012, 08:02 PM
EeeBees probably not, probably means... 13-09-2012, 08:11 PM
RCGSP If pheasants are nesting in... 13-09-2012, 08:41 PM
Dundee Cmon Eeebees I know your dogs... 14-09-2012, 07:08 PM
EeeBees :D:D:D 15-09-2012, 04:07 PM
EeeBees Mathematics need... 15-09-2012, 03:22 PM
el borracho Its clear people dont just... 15-09-2012, 03:48 PM
EeeBees Of course people dont lock... 15-09-2012, 04:00 PM
el borracho not if you're a classic... 16-09-2012, 07:08 AM
EeeBees I dont know what a classic... 16-09-2012, 04:54 PM
kawhia you would get the blunt end... 16-09-2012, 08:42 AM
el borracho I would well imagine so -but... 16-09-2012, 11:44 AM
upnorth uplander my dogs dont see any game... 16-09-2012, 09:10 AM
el borracho "a mans dogs are always... 16-09-2012, 11:42 AM
EeeBees Oh please, all due respect... 16-09-2012, 04:47 PM
el borracho its so true tho and it... 16-09-2012, 06:07 PM
EeeBees I think someone would have to... 16-09-2012, 07:31 PM
el borracho pointer or setter owner and... 16-09-2012, 06:01 PM
el borracho That torpedo want meant for... 16-09-2012, 08:14 PM
upnorth uplander hey victoria, Jim had my dog... 16-09-2012, 08:24 PM
EeeBees No, not this year... 16-09-2012, 08:34 PM
el borracho haaaaaaaa Bushie who ever... 19-09-2012, 10:11 PM
el borracho your as bad as me Z -your... 20-09-2012, 09:30 AM
upnorth uplander my pointer that you have seen... 20-09-2012, 09:40 AM
el borracho Great job Z , lucky find... 20-09-2012, 09:49 AM
Bushie Truth hurts eh 22-09-2012, 06:36 PM
Dougie Sorry who are you again?... 22-09-2012, 07:03 PM
upnorth uplander why would the truth about my... 22-09-2012, 07:35 PM
el borracho Bushie,no need to get to ... 22-09-2012, 07:05 PM
upnorth uplander theres no fault in having one... 22-09-2012, 07:30 PM
Dundee I think theres a dog fight on... 22-09-2012, 07:13 PM
Dougie Yeaaaaaap people have their... 22-09-2012, 07:15 PM
EeeBees Bushie, what breed of dog/s... 23-09-2012, 09:46 AM
upnorth uplander you meanies must have scared... 26-09-2012, 06:28 PM
Dougie I think when "Coward" is your... 26-09-2012, 06:30 PM
Bushie I doubt you lot could scare... 02-11-2012, 09:24 PM
el borracho scared 02-11-2012, 10:58 PM
Dougie Haha so you go a tough talk... 02-11-2012, 11:01 PM
el borracho comon Gavin man get off the... 03-11-2012, 07:44 AM
crzyman If you think calling anyone... 03-11-2012, 08:39 AM
el borracho Is this kinda like when you... 03-11-2012, 09:30 AM
upnorth uplander who called who dogshit, fuck... 03-11-2012, 08:43 AM
Dougie Thread looks better already :) 03-11-2012, 09:03 AM
el borracho I dunno but I thought he PMd... 03-11-2012, 09:20 AM
upnorth uplander whos Gav??? 04-11-2012, 08:57 AM
Ruff LOL well it is entertaining... 03-11-2012, 01:26 PM
Pointer I havent heard anyone called... 03-11-2012, 09:34 PM
Dundee Bugger i missed some shit... 03-11-2012, 09:51 PM
Pointer "...Twenty-four years I've... 04-11-2012, 06:34 PM
el borracho crzyman 04-11-2012, 07:41 PM
EeeBees What was this thread about... 04-11-2012, 08:32 PM
Pointer Gav! Gav? 04-11-2012, 08:48 PM
upnorth uplander :P being a setter man, ELB... 05-11-2012, 08:52 AM
moonhunt Bushie or not bushie 04-11-2012, 08:48 PM
el borracho Gavin is Crazyman the... 04-11-2012, 08:51 PM
Pointer Bushie! Bushie? Who the fuck... 04-11-2012, 08:54 PM
Pointer Or maybe where the fuck is... 04-11-2012, 08:58 PM
el borracho the original ''Who's on... 04-11-2012, 08:59 PM
el borracho hahaha true its because I... 05-11-2012, 09:40 AM
Dougie El B I hope you know I am... 05-11-2012, 09:47 AM
el borracho well when I find one after my... 05-11-2012, 09:52 AM
Dougie I meant your bitch, silly.... 05-11-2012, 10:00 AM
el borracho Bushie , nothing wrong with a... 05-11-2012, 03:13 PM
Bulltahr Yeah man, keep the trolling... 05-11-2012, 03:54 PM
Dougie Wait a sec, El B does the tag... 05-11-2012, 06:19 PM
Ruff I know Bushie... he's... 05-11-2012, 07:01 PM
Bushie Stop that, you will spoil my... 05-11-2012, 11:20 PM
veitnamcam Yea its a big man that... 06-11-2012, 08:05 PM
EeeBees And it is likely yours will... 05-11-2012, 07:37 PM
Ruff Now now EeeBees you don;t... 05-11-2012, 08:12 PM
EeeBees :D but I know you can take a... 05-11-2012, 08:31 PM
Ruff Only so much.... :cool: 05-11-2012, 08:35 PM
EeeBees Yes. :) 05-11-2012, 08:40 PM
Dundee I'm staying out of this one... 05-11-2012, 09:24 PM
Pointer Pass the popcorn Dundee! ... 05-11-2012, 09:31 PM
upnorth uplander what happened between me n... 06-11-2012, 01:27 PM
Dougie Yeah go on, tell us all then... 06-11-2012, 03:51 PM
el borracho Bushie -we all have our... 06-11-2012, 02:45 PM
Bushie Hahahaha ha fuck you will be... 06-11-2012, 02:51 PM
el borracho I am an right wing supporter... 06-11-2012, 03:03 PM
Bushie Some suffer fools better than... 06-11-2012, 03:51 PM
Ruff Funniest thread in sooooo... 06-11-2012, 03:10 PM
el borracho its no biggy at all -smelly... 06-11-2012, 03:16 PM
el borracho I would ask respectfully that... 06-11-2012, 07:08 PM
el borracho good now Bushie are you a dog... 06-11-2012, 07:35 PM
Bushie Of course. I have two. A lab... 07-11-2012, 10:34 AM
el borracho Bushie if you have pm.d a... 06-11-2012, 08:40 PM
Dougie I'm fine, just chilling here... 06-11-2012, 08:45 PM
Bushie See, he/she is fine. Actually... 06-11-2012, 11:16 PM
Dougie He/she/it is infact a female,... 06-11-2012, 11:28 PM
RCGSP Frickin Canadians. Always... 06-11-2012, 11:46 PM
Dougie :D 06-11-2012, 11:52 PM
Gapped axe Get the rubber out and erase... 07-11-2012, 08:28 AM
Pointer I reckon - this thread has... 07-11-2012, 08:36 AM
el borracho Do you put alot of time into... 07-11-2012, 10:37 AM
Bushie Not as much time as I should,... 07-11-2012, 12:01 PM
el borracho A bit of humor Bushie;) was... 07-11-2012, 01:48 PM
Bushie Yeah it was, I asked her how... 07-11-2012, 09:12 PM
el borracho For me itis apart of my... 07-11-2012, 10:28 PM
Bushie Went and watched a trial.... 07-11-2012, 10:35 PM
el borracho Good crew and plenty of stuff... 07-11-2012, 10:50 PM
Dundee El B are you the lion... 07-11-2012, 11:00 PM
el borracho Bushie one must cultivate... 08-11-2012, 12:19 AM
Bushie There you go channeling Sue... 08-11-2012, 02:24 AM
el borracho :sarge:love not war 08-11-2012, 06:03 AM
Dougie You're watching the Xfiles?... 08-11-2012, 10:24 AM
Ruff Cause internet talk is... 08-11-2012, 06:57 PM
Dougie Oh whoops, I thought Bushie... 08-11-2012, 07:30 PM
el borracho Naughty girl Dougie and no... 08-11-2012, 10:47 AM
Ruff Bushie, pull your head in...... 08-11-2012, 06:56 PM
upnorth uplander what parts full of shit... 20-09-2012, 09:11 AM
upnorth uplander 1st post and its a shot at... 20-09-2012, 11:06 AM
Spanners Nope - we're just not going... 06-11-2012, 11:49 PM
Ruff Don't be a little... 06-11-2012, 12:23 AM
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    running dogs in potential breeding grounds during the breeding season for gamebirds

    I know we all have different opinions on this but would like to hear what you think about it, I personally stay away from all potential breeding areas

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    yeah me too -I only stick to well worn public tracks which may also have birds visit it often -unlikely they would breed there though .

    One must be sensible though and realize birds can breed anywhere , dont stop running you dog "just "because there is a possibility you will encounter birds --they will come back and re roost on their nests .

    The only reason they don't come back is if you go touching there eggs which you'd be an idiot to do .

    Common sense should be used, some of us have a little more than others
    Tweed or not to Tweed that is the question

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    Quote Originally Posted by el borracho View Post
    yeah me too -I only stick to well worn public tracks which may also have birds visit it often -unlikely they would breed there though .

    One must be sensible though and realize birds can breed anywhere , dont stop running you dog "just "because there is a possibility you will encounter birds --they will come back and re roost on their nests .

    The only reason they don't come back is if you go touching there eggs which you'd be an idiot to do .

    Common sense should be used, some of us have a little more than others


    i dont agree with this

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    i don't run my dogs where any game birds are likely to be this time of the year....... ducks or pheasants.
    public tracks don't get much use during the week.... pheasants only need a day to scratch out a nest and start laying.

    to actually go hunting for them for pratice this time of the year is bullshit....... go find some pigeons and a trap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kawhia View Post
    i don't run my dogs where any game birds are likely to be this time of the year....... ducks or pheasants.
    public tracks don't get much use during the week.... pheasants only need a day to scratch out a nest and start laying.

    to actually go hunting for them for pratice this time of the year is bullshit....... go find some pigeons and a trap.

    it may even be illegel, someone correct me if im wrong. To run a live game trial out of season you need a permit to hunt game out of season

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    it actually is.......... disturbing a 'fully protected bird' in fact.........

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    I avoid 99.9% of potential nest sites.

    There are some places I don't mind dogs being run like the dunes at muriwai by the golf course that are heavily trafficked anyway. The cover in the dunes is too open anyway for nesting. I just keep the dogs in the open grass and out of the heavy cover.

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    There are a few cosiderations , the biggest is if it is a nesting area at all . Muriwai where i train is overun by man and dog and i dont mean hunting people. Im in agreement with ryan, muriwai has way to much foot traffic in both weekend and week days for birds to nest there -it is an area of 300y x 200y it is nice tho that one can encouter the birds that fly in and out of the area occasionaly while teaching your do to quarter the land.
    Tweed or not to Tweed that is the question

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    Years ago i use to train my dog in takapuna on a feild where the old tip was and even there i would encounter birds - its a hazard of running your dog somtimes
    Tweed or not to Tweed that is the question

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    Upnorth Uplander, to me to go anywhere near where there is even 1% opportunity of nesting birds being found is not only unfair but unthinking (go hunt fur or vermin pigeons!!!); on my side of the river (Tutaekuri), the bird population (feral, not escapees from any preserve) is almost at a stalemate and the last thing we need is people with their dogs harassing them...I know, I know... these areas are public access and all that...as a deerstalker you dont go shooting all the fawns...
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    or allowing ya pig dogs to scragg sows and suckers
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    Working on the theories in this thread I shouldn't run my dogs on the farm at all as they can be nesting anywhere on our place (literally)
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    Quote Originally Posted by EeeBees View Post
    Upnorth Uplander, to me to go anywhere near where there is even 1% opportunity of nesting birds being found is not only unfair but unthinking (go hunt fur or vermin pigeons!!!); on my side of the river (Tutaekuri), the bird population (feral, not escapees from any preserve) is almost at a stalemate and the last thing we need is people with their dogs harassing them...I know, I know... these areas are public access and all that...as a deerstalker you dont go shooting all the fawns...
    Thats ridiculous , how would you know ? Birds go everywhere -fly , walk , take the bus but they are every where .Sounds like you don't want to train your dog or even take him for a walk anywhere interesting .I read you guys and think you are all just bound up in fanaticism and to be truthful if Jo wants to train his dog at XYZ and he encounters birds who gives a flying toss --there are so few Dog people that get out and train often it wouldn't make a dent in the population at all -"especially" where I train !, in fact you cant shoot in that area at all up to about 15km away up the beach
    Tweed or not to Tweed that is the question

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    Quote Originally Posted by el borracho View Post
    Thats ridiculous , how would you know ? Birds go everywhere -fly , walk , take the bus but they are every where .Sounds like you don't want to train your dog or even take him for a walk anywhere interesting .I read you guys and think you are all just bound up in fanaticism and to be truthful if Jo wants to train his dog at XYZ and he encounters birds who gives a flying toss --there are so few Dog people that get out and train often it wouldn't make a dent in the population at all -"especially" where I train !, in fact you cant shoot in that area at all up to about 15km away up the beach
    El Borracho, some of us want to see an enduring and sustainable population of birds in our areas...knowing how fickle the pheasant is when she is on the nest, I applaud anyone who exercises a degree of maturity and understanding of the bird we are dealing with. Well, if you have bird numbers in your area as you are implying, I envy you, it is simply that some of us dont...as I say, it is now we hunt fur...
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    Quote Originally Posted by EeeBees View Post
    El Borracho, some of us want to see an enduring and sustainable population of birds in our areas...knowing how fickle the pheasant is when she is on the nest, I applaud anyone who exercises a degree of maturity and understanding of the bird we are dealing with. Well, if you have bird numbers in your area as you are implying, I envy you, it is simply that some of us dont...as I say, it is now we hunt fur...
    Fair enough EeeBees, the area we are talking about is saturated by two things -birds and humans with dogs all year . As I said at the start of the thread you have to use your common sense more than anything else but to blanket going out to the country side with your dog to train cause birds are laying is just crazy --youll know if you in an area with Polts -youll find them often enough and then youll move away .Birds go back to the nest unlike what Upnorth says .HE REALLY STARTED THIS THREAD TO HAVE A SHOT AT ME !! NOTHING ELSE
    Tweed or not to Tweed that is the question

 

 

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