After seeing how many koi carp are in the Waikato river I decided to have some fun catching carp for berley and bait. Never fished for carp before, heard they like bread and corn but what is the best and easiest rig to tie up and us for carp?
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After seeing how many koi carp are in the Waikato river I decided to have some fun catching carp for berley and bait. Never fished for carp before, heard they like bread and corn but what is the best and easiest rig to tie up and us for carp?
Keep it simple. Hook, leader, swivel, sinker free running on mainline. Use the smallest sinker possible to combat current if on a river. Better still, find an area of slack water and don't use a sinker. Use small, strong hooks. Lots of sweetcorn and mashed up bread thrown in to the area you are fishing. Consult @Black Rabbit for recipes!
Mullet net. You catch them in the lips and also catch mullet for bait!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Three O'Three
Look up some English fishing channels on YouTube carp fishing is big over there
If there is no rules about how many hooks you can use and what bait is allowed, then use this hook set. Tie it at the end of your line, leader, no leader does `t matter and use one ball sinker since you `r going to cast it away. Mono line is better because it sink fast and fish can `t see it. You can use your salt water gear for carp, rod over 3m long. Make bait dough and cover those hooks inside. For big carp living in deep water....well you got yourself a nice fight.
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Thats not very fit and proper :PQuote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
Koi, or simply Carp. Cant call them Koi carp as it annoys the crap out of me :P
Anyone tried Koi meat for Snapper bait ?
Do Snapper go for it ?
No, but snapper would eat anything, including an old t-shirt, dead birds and polystyrene (I've seen it with my own eyes). I'm sure carp will work as bait. Some people swear by it. I wouldn't expect it to be as good as skipjack tuna, blue mackerel, pilchard etc in creating a scent trail, but if the snapper can find, they'll eat it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 30.06king
:slow: If I have to explain that this is firmly tongue in cheek then the world is in a very sad state of affairs.....Quote:
Originally Posted by blip
Bowfishing is the other option. Lots of koi carp shot with bow and arrow.
Easy to agree with that. I love when Snapper get into feeding frenzy mode and grab anything going. Couple of times I've seen bloody big Snapper crowding the mussel ropes being pulled in by barges in the Coromandel. Hell, what sight. Dozens of big fins and tails flashing madly as they ravage easy mussels. And fishermen casting in lures and baits for instant hookups. Quite thrilling just to see it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
At a sanctuary called Goat Island you can buy small bags of dried or frozen peas to toss as you stand in shallow water over the rocks. Small Snapper absolutely love them and it's a laugh watching them grabbing a feed.
I did. We caught lots of carp, I filleted some for aged & smoked meat, but still too many then I take it to the shore and wash it with salt water, and then salt it for couple days used for bait. But I am land based fisherman so only got few bites.Quote:
Originally Posted by 30.06king
sorry not a fisherman but what are those spring looking things forQuote:
Originally Posted by Black Rabbit
The spring is for holding the bait so that you can cast it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by blip
Makes the dynamite more bouncy :yaeh am not durnk:Quote:
Originally Posted by blip
gelignite lots of it just throw it in with a short fuse net out the remains all that crap fish deserves
Yeah, I use it when I get it as a by catch chasing mullet. It's a pain to scale and fillet but snapper eat it just fine. Still prefer mullet though.Quote:
Originally Posted by 30.06king
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Got this lot last Thursday off Port Waikato. Caught using both mullet and Koi and did not notice any difference in hookup.
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Did you make those yourself or buy them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Rabbit
I've watched some of those videos and those rigs don't look simple to tie and tackle shops in NZ don't seem to supply parts needed to tie carp rigs. My rig is going to be a small float at one end a small sinker and 5/0 hook with bread and maybe corn at the other end. Going out later today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy Jack
5/0! Try size 2, not 2/0, 2.
We find it to be better than pilchards and mullet. stays on the hook really well and is oily enough to attract fish. Blue mackerel and skippies are too nice to use as bait!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
we catch them with bows and arrows, or a fyke net. works a charm.
I used to shoot them on a farm behind the Rangiriri pub. 22.250 worked, but so did .221 fireball, .223, 280 Rem.
I always wanted to buy a cheap SKS and a bucket of ammo, but never got around to it. Sigh.......
tried koi of cape Karikari burley and bait - a spot that normally produced good snapper- had no luck with it went back to skipjack - surprised many on here had success with it - maybe should have tried again --but cannot eat skipjack in any form just cant stand the smellQuote:
Originally Posted by Russian 22.
maybe auckland snapper like it better :o we even use catfish as bait and burley. mince the carp and catfish frames up. fillet them and voila. we find it stays on the hook well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry the hunter
So, went out today, drove into Huntly, looked around the river but didn't find any spots that looked suitable for carp or accessible so tried the two lakes but nothing was biting, water was quite choppy. Drove around to Ngaruawahia to find a spot a workmate told me about but couldn't find it so went for a walk along the Rail Trail walking track that runs along the Waingaro river next to Waingaro road, I've have seen carp in that river. Tried a few spots along that track, plenty of fish but nothing was taking the bait, bread. The last spot I tried I changed out my rig, from a float with small sinker rig to a simple trace with a 4/0 hook, boom, fish on, big fish, put up a big fight and as I was pulling it up onto the bank the bloody line snap at the hook only a few feet from me and lost the fish. After that nothing else was biting so called it a day.
They are smarter and stronger fighters than most would credit.
I used to make them but buying it in China is more convenient, save lots of time and efforts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Three O'Three
I was mistaken. The hooks weren't 5/0 or 4/0, still learning about hook sizes. Two hooks I used were 2/0 and 3/0 but I could clearing see those hooks were too big as one carp I saw picked up the bait and hook then spit it out and swam off looking spooked. Smallest I have is 1/0 so some time in the week I'll pay a visit to my local tackle shopQuote:
Originally Posted by MB
Something like a size 2 livebait hook (short shank, small and strong) would be ideal, but a little hard to track down. Forget light gauge, bait catching-style hooks unless you are using a light rod and line. These are easily found. 1/0 would work.
https://www.blackmagictackle.com/pro...r-series-hooks
Been having some success. They are clever bustards though. Some hooks spook them, some don't. Some lines and set-ups spook them, some don't. Some bait drives them crazy, some sends them running. And I'm sure some can see me on the bank which sends them in the other direction.
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