Thread: Commercial response to todays changes in SNA1

THey are starting to call foul already.


Recreational Bias in Minister’s Decision Snapper Fishery East Coast North Island

This is a shared fishery where recreational, commercial and customary interests fish side by side. We need decisions that create incentives for us to work together to manage the fishery.

We have all taken cuts when needed – and we all need to experience (allocation) gains in the good times.

The good times are here – the fishery is healthier than it has been for 20 years and growing despite the unrestrained growth in the recreational and charter boat sector.

But now the rebuild plan is showing success, the increased catch allocation is given to only one sector – recreational fishers.

It is of concern to us that despite the recreational allowance being exceeded by 52% there has been no allowance for increased commercial catch, even a small catch increase to start to offset the additional costs in the Minister’s decision.

Despite commercial allocations being cut in the past, commercial fishers have kept within their catch limits.

It is unfair to penalise commercial fishers and sends a poor message to the commercial sector – look after the fishery but ultimately you will lose it. That drives a deep wedge into the heart of the conservation ethic out on the water.

The most basic foundation of our fisheries management system is that fishers in all sectors need to take a long term view. A restrained catch today gives everyone a greater catch tomorrow. This no longer seems to ring true.

There is a huge population of Aucklanders who rely on commercial fishers to make their fish available in fish shops, supermarkets and restaurants. How would Auckland continue to rank as one of the top 10 cities to live in the world if you can’t buy snapper locally or at a restaurant?

Eric Barratt
Managing Director

Thats the best quote of bullshit I've heard for ages, the guy is obviously out of touch with reality.
I also have to wonder what he has been smoking .

Should we just tack on a 30 percent quota tax for discard to make it fair...

Ducking for cover.:eek:

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Should we just tack on a 30 percent quota tax for discard to make it fair...

Ducking for cover.:eek:

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maybe a increase in the commercial sectors GST to say 25% as well as the above .
A reduction of quota by a similar percentage is also in order to speed the regeneration of the inshore fishery.

Shud-up Chris ffs this is verging on political again

Nah all they need to do is include by catch in their quota so that they learn to catch what the heck they are trying to instead of dumping it!
Thats whats fucking it up IMO and MO is worth sweet FA of course!!

The qms makes it very difficult in some areas to actually catch your quota of a species you or the company you are working for payed good money for.

The whole qms system needs a revamp- it was ground breaking management when introduced and since then it has been upgraded none.
The commodor 64 was ground breaking in around the same era and Bill Gates was quoted as saying 64 meg or kb or what ever the Hell it is is more than the home user will ever need!

Times change.

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Make selling snapper overseas illegal, no probl's then with Auckland issues.

A country like nz could be almost totaly self sufficient.
Why do we have to prostitute ourselves on the global market?
Because that's how a handful of people get filthy Fuckin Ritch.

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It also creates jobs for us to earn money to live

How come almost everyone had a good paying job and higher standard of living before we had to say global prices for staples?

In the 70s it was the norm to raise a family and pay a mortgage on one average wage comfortably.
Try that now.

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Imho it should be illeagle to export a whole log or fish and for any non citizen to catch that fish or process that fish or log.

Do that very low unemployment very low local prices high standard of living. Oh yea that's how it used to be.:rolleyes:

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Sadly cam those days are gone hell I remember mum and dad spending $100 a week or maybe less to feed them and us two kids. and damn near every weekend it was off over the sand dunes from where we lived on simpson road in papamoa fishing and grabbing a feed of tua tua and getting a good bucket load of whitebait out of the kaituna cut during whitebait season. But now our poplation is exploding jobs are getting harder to get as there is normally 8-900 other people applying for the same job, employers would rather not train someone to do a job but hire skilled staff from overseas hence the increase in population, therefore increasing the unemployment rate. If our population was to shrink back down to what it was back in the 70's and 80's I do not know what it would do to our country or the economy would be hard to say if it would improve it all or send the country to total bankruptcy. What needs to be sorted out is the banning of bottom trawlers from trawling close to the shoreline and boot them 10k's offshore and go longlines only for commercial snapper fishing close to the shoreline then there would not be any need to cause a big fish wastage through dumping and the whole process can be more selective and a better chance to put those undersized or small ones back alive. But will we be listened to hell no they care more about making money than conserving the underwater environment by preventing damage to it.