Thread: Fishing tomorrow!

Originally Posted by Pengy

I think you are confusing boats with wives

@Pengy I will let you tell my wife that..............................!!

Originally Posted by Pengy

I think you are confusing boats with wives

How do you buy a wife Pengy? Mine is getting a bit tatty around the edges and a fresh new one could be useful.

Originally Posted by Rushy

How do you buy a wife Pengy? Mine is getting a bit tatty around the edges and a fresh new one could be useful.

Jesus Rushy, your living dangerously!
Only think it, dont put it into written media in case one of the family want black mail you!

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Originally Posted by Rushy

How do you buy a wife Pengy? Mine is getting a bit tatty around the edges and a fresh new one could be useful.

It is a kind of hire purchase deal over many years, but you dont actually get to read the terms and conditions up front

Originally Posted by Pengy

It is a kind of hire purchase deal over many years, but you dont actually get to read the terms and conditions up front

And they are subject to change at any time.

Grunters are back in the Pelorus in good numbers and a bit earlier this year
Caught on Kabura Sliders too :-)

Doing midweek charters is cool especially when the boat is only half full and the punters invite the crew to catch a fish or 2.............A few rat kings came onboard and were released. A couple of guys wanted to know if there were any 'keepers' and I gave a quick tutorial on how to catch bigger ones. Following the instruction, 3 keepers were landed by the guys. 83, 85 and 87cm long. A couple of them then asked me if there were any bigger ones around and why didnt I show them how it was done......... so I did.

Bottom fish weighed in at 24.5kg and measured out at 1.27m " Bet you cant do that again"...........so I did and the top one in the pic measured out at 1.30m and weighed in at 27,9kg.........Kept one fillet off the smaller one for the skipper and I to share and gave the guys the rest....... They booked 2 more charters on the spot.......

How do you target the bigger ones then ?

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

How do you target the bigger ones then ?

Put your crosshairs on them and pull the trigger?

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

How do you target the bigger ones then ?

Good question. One thing I have noticed with the majority of people jigging on the charter boat is that they all use the same technique. Drop to the bottom, jig rapidly to the surface then repeat. I am lazy old and find that very tiring.
Working on the charter boat means that I when I have the opportunity to drop a line I have keep well clear of the paying customers to avoid tangles or interfering with their fishing. Due to the design of the boat and our survey limits, paying customers are limited to fishing from the cockpit which is large enough to accommodate 26 people. As luck would have it, where I fish places me close enough to the electronics to be able to see the sonar.
Modern high quality commercial electronics with experienced use, can show much much more than just the presence of fish. they can also show different species and fish size and have a number of settings to enhance this. I can also see the jigs as other guys jig to the surface and often note that they pass by bigger fish without a strike. Armed with that knowledge I can pass on that info to the customers. When I jig, if normal methods arent working I present the jig in various ways rather than a simple drop and jig on the retrieve. Both of the kings yesterday struck on what I call 'reverse' jigging.
As the jig was free falling to the bottom, I stop the spool with my finger, lift the rod high in a jerky double motion so the jig jerks up twice then drop the rod to below horizontal which releases about a metre of line before repeating the action. After each stop and double jerk, this causes the jig ( especially Knife jigs) to flutter as it drops. If a fish strikes, the line will normally remain slack rather than regaining tension from the weight of the jig and I will then rapidly wind and strike by lifting the rod tip.

If I dont get a strike on the drop, I let the jig settle to the bottom then instead of jigging rapidly to the surface I slow jig back up through the water column by lifting the rod in 2 or 3 jerks each lift of the tip until I pass through what appears to be the bigger fish. I also vary that movement by dropping the rod tip quickly to create slack so that the jig flutters on the way up.
On saturdays trip I watched a guy jig for about 20mins without a strike using the normal method. I told him to try the above but due to his mind set he couldnt get his head around the mechanics of it.. He finally asked me to demonstrate the method. Using my gear, I threw a jig over the side and gave him a running commentary as I demonstrated the method.....on the 4th lift and double jerk I hooked up a 95cm King, brought it to the boat and to his credit he refused the offer of the fish and we released it... He then tried the same method and hooked up on his first drop..........

It doesnt work everytime, but if the fish wont strike using normal methods then try something else.......

Keep it to yourself my friend, we dont want everyone targeting the bigger ones

Oh, and it the same idea about bigger baits catch bigger fish applies........I look at the size of jigs others are using and go bigger if my gear can handle it......

Originally Posted by Allgood

Good question. One thing I have noticed with the majority of people jigging on the charter boat is that they all use the same technique. Drop to the bottom, jig rapidly to the surface then repeat. I am lazy old and find that very tiring.
Working on the charter boat means that I when I have the opportunity to drop a line I have keep well clear of the paying customers to avoid tangles or interfering with their fishing. Due to the design of the boat and our survey limits, paying customers are limited to fishing from the cockpit which is large enough to accommodate 26 people. As luck would have it, where I fish places me close enough to the electronics to be able to see the sonar.
Modern high quality commercial electronics with experienced use, can show much much more than just the presence of fish. they can also show different species and fish size and have a number of settings to enhance this. I can also see the jigs as other guys jig to the surface and often note that they pass by bigger fish without a strike. Armed with that knowledge I can pass on that info to the customers. When I jig, if normal methods arent working I present the jig in various ways rather than a simple drop and jig on the retrieve. Both of the kings yesterday struck on what I call 'reverse' jigging.
As the jig was free falling to the bottom, I stop the spool with my finger, lift the rod high in a jerky double motion so the jig jerks up twice then drop the rod to below horizontal which releases about a metre of line before repeating the action. After each stop and double jerk, this causes the jig ( especially Knife jigs) to flutter as it drops. If a fish strikes, the line will normally remain slack rather than regaining tension from the weight of the jig and I will then rapidly wind and strike by lifting the rod tip.

If I dont get a strike on the drop, I let the jig settle to the bottom then instead of jigging rapidly to the surface I slow jig back up through the water column by lifting the rod in 2 or 3 jerks each lift of the tip until I pass through what appears to be the bigger fish. I also vary that movement by dropping the rod tip quickly to create slack so that the jig flutters on the way up.
On saturdays trip I watched a guy jig for about 20mins without a strike using the normal method. I told him to try the above but due to his mind set he couldnt get his head around the mechanics of it.. He finally asked me to demonstrate the method. Using my gear, I threw a jig over the side and gave him a running commentary as I demonstrated the method.....on the 4th lift and double jerk I hooked up a 95cm King, brought it to the boat and to his credit he refused the offer of the fish and we released it... He then tried the same method and hooked up on his first drop..........

It doesnt work everytime, but if the fish wont strike using normal methods then try something else.......

Keep it to yourself my friend, we dont want everyone targeting the bigger ones

Oh, and it the same idea about bigger baits catch bigger fish applies........I look at the size of jigs others are using and go bigger if my gear can handle it......

Good to know thanks.
If one thing isnt working I will try anything else till it does

The long wait begins...first snapper hunt of this season ...could be sharky ..might be epic! 430 am ...hurry the fuck up...I know he said 5 but he’ll be here at 430!

Rods are ready , knots are tied and tested . Dog is giving me the stink eye , tucker is sorted ...thermos on the bench .....ohh the long waiiiiit begins. I’m shaved trimmed my nails , checked the weather ...got bait out defrosting slowly in the beer fridge , will get a burley out at midnight so it can pump goodness straight off the bat ..checked weather again ...ahh off to charge head light batteries ....how good a life ...this good a life!

Head light batteries done ....even laid out fishing uniform ...ohhh the long wait ...off to tie rigs ..

Originally Posted by Sarvo

Grunters are back in the Pelorus in good numbers and a bit earlier this year
Caught on Kabura Sliders too :-)

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Yea we hammered a few a few weeks back in the sounds very random when and where and on what hitting them

Originally Posted by stingray

The long wait begins...first snapper hunt of this season ...could be sharky ..might be epic! 430 am ...hurry the fuck up...I know he said 5 but he’ll be here at 430!

Rods are ready , knots are tied and tested . Dog is giving me the stink eye , tucker is sorted ...thermos on the bench .....ohh the long waiiiiit begins. I’m shaved trimmed my nails , checked the weather ...got bait out defrosting slowly in the beer fridge , will get a burley out at midnight so it can pump goodness straight off the bat ..checked weather again ...ahh off to charge head light batteries ....how good a life ...this good a life!

I will give you a wave.......on my way to work