Thread: How not to be invited again....

I took a bloke out in my boat a couple of years ago and he threw me overboard. Bugger it, I'll still paddle myself out again.

I haven't been bought up around the boats with motors so I'm just picking up this crew thing as I go.

Originally Posted by Kiwi Sapper

Fair enough..BUT, do you have the courtesy to mention that before embarking or do you just rely on their ability to read your unspoken mind?

Hello Kiwi Sapper, Yes I do rely on the unspoken word. Rules of the boat are a lot like camp rules when a party of men are in the bush on a hunting trip, duties are shared, costs are shared and most importantly each member makes a conscious effort to get on with the other members of the party.
Being confined to camp in the bush is similar to being confined in a boat at sea.
Not everyone shares the same viewpoints as another, and different viewpoints can lead to friction. As I said at least make an effort to get on with each other and the whole trip can be a pleasant experience for all members of the trip.

I think that the transition from boyhood to manhood is to learn to get on and cooperate with those around you, is important.
Hunting and fishing trips are ideal for this training with good roll models and mentors,

Unfortunately some missed out on the growing/learning experience.
This is why I rely on the unspoken mind, a good crew should understand the unspoken word on how to get on and enjoy the actual experience together as a team.
This is my view anyhow.

Cheers

Originally Posted by mikee

for me mentioning "best practise", "moving forward" or "you don't know what you don't know" "future proofed" or "learnings" would have the same result

What about "Journey" ?

At least being offered gas money and/or help with clean up goes a long way to ongoing invites.

Definite black book entry if they end up pinching your good spots and sharing them around.

Other than that, its just down to how you click when out or in the water.

Originally Posted by Steve123

What about "Journey" ?

oh god............nooooooooooooooooooooo

Originally Posted by Steve123

What about "Journey" ?

Worse still "team of 5 million"...........

Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

They shit all over the place when they're dead

Yep, guts go everywhere out their arse holes. Their shit sticks like super glue

......actually as @screamO did fill a boat with good blokes , and a diver...and you enjoy your day out ...well except for someone hogging the burley pot ..

I’ve done multiple trips with forum members ...seems that we are people cut from the same cloth ..some spew and chuck fish back but as a whole we’re a good bunch of outdoors folk. what we don’t know we will ask about and others will teach and share ..fishing hunting outdoors is our strength and passion and is what we are and brought us all together ..

Maybe I got the thread wrong...... Maybe should have been - what will get you a invite back.


For me, the worst things -
- not on time. If we agree meet at ramp at 6, that means your there at 5.55.

- I'll say, there's 3 of us and you're on food. Bring enough for 3..... The other 2 are bring bait/burley and the boat and fuel....
- not doing what I say when I say it (when I get serious voice on). Not only could be dangerous, but could cost a lot. "throw the stern port rope at the first cleat, and tie it off" doesn't mean, get off onto the Dock and find a something to tie to.

If it's a day trip and your a Newby, normally I won't ask for fuel money. Normally I say your on food. Next level is bait. Normally, this all evens out. I'm only a 150hp o/b, so not to bad. Bring shit food though.... and that's a black mark.


As for cleaning, just be present and prepared to grab stuff, take stuff to rubbish bin, etc.. I prefer to pack the boat away myself, but it's helpful if some is willing to be there and do what's said.

Easy as that

Originally Posted by muzza

hey - c'mon. We are all in this together.....

Another term used, just before pushing a person over board...….

This is an interesting thread....
Touch wood I've never had a bad fishing trip, it's normally the muilti day trips where things can wear a bit thin but after the trip is over you look back and say, hell that was fun, remember when so and so was fu-king everyone off.
I do agree with the unspoken rules which everyone should kind of know but really it's only the people that normally fish that would know them. I mean I have taken mates out who are bloody hopeless on the boat and everything to do with boating and fishing, what I tend to forget is that not everyone has had the opportunity to go fishing when they were kids so how would they know what the unspoken rules would be.
I quite enjoy the newby's on the boat as long as they are trying to be helpful. I'm also enjoying meeting new people and picking up on some of their tips and tricks.
I also like people with a different view on things, whether I agree with it or not....makes for a different conversation. The older I get I think the more open-minded I'm becoming.

I spose my biggest hate on a boat, especially when I'm the skipper is people getting so pissed they can hardly look after themselves .....If something was to happen they put everyone on board in danger.
I was told by a charter skipper......you can tell how good the day is going to be by how much piss they bring onboard.

Or they bring no piss, its a fine line

I'm always happy to take newbies out fishing. The ones who will get an invite back out again are the ones who get into the spirit of it, aren't afraid to muck in and make an effort to help out and clean up etc., and the ones who don't whinge and complain if it's a slow day fishing. I don't care if they need help setting up their rigs/tying knots or handling fish etc so long as they've got a good attitude. Offering to chip in for gas, bringing some food to share etc goes a long way too.

One guy in particular sticks out for all the wrong reasons. Me & a couple buddies were headed to Mavora Lakes for a fly fishing trip. I fish with both these guys a lot & they're great value. One of them brought a newbie along on this particular trip (it had been cleared with us first), as this guy had been begging my mate to teach him how to fly fish. He instantly struck me as a bit peculiar, but didn't come across bad. Had a good first night at camp with beers shared amongst all and good chat. But once the fishing started the following morning it quickly became apparent that this guy was gonna drive us all mental. Two of us headed out ahead while my buddy spent some time with his mate giving him tips, helping him spot some cruising browns etc, but the guys attitude was awful. Complete bloody airhead, and just wasn't aware (or didn't care) about anything around him and wouldn't listen to any advice from any of us. He knew all about how spooky trout can be, and had been told to move quietly and carefully, but he would just splash his way through the shallow water without a care in the world. Eventually I got so frustrated I moved about a kilometre up the lake ahead of him. At one point I'd got onto a bloody nice cruising brown that was taking off the surface. Spent about 20mins changing my fly, planning my approach and sneaking into position. Was finally just getting into casting position when all of a sudden a rock came splashing down right beside the fish. This bloody guy had got bored fishing and had walked up behind me and decided to just start chucking rocks. That was the last straw. Guy was a complete clown with no focus or interest in even trying. Was a bloody shame too cos it was the first time he'd ever picked up a fly rod and he could cast better than most serious fly fishers I know. Then the morning we were packing up camp to head home he realises he's dropped a box of my mates flies somewhere around the lake and just took off to go hunt for them while we packed up camp. We ended up sitting around for about 2hrs waiting for him to come back, emptyhanded of course. Never even apologised, let alone offer to replace my mates flies. Needless to say we never saw the guy again after that trip.

lol sounds like a real champ Pixie Z. I've had a couple of guys who wanted me to teach them about fishing ( saltwater) one wanted me to bait his hook and take any fish off. Did that for a bit until I got sick of it and said he could sort his own shit out. he was using my rod and tackle. Another guy ( who is my best mate) started reading books about knots and the like and seemed to want to do his learning out of a book. All good but he also wanted me to take him hunting but doesn't want to use a scope and has no idea about stalking which put the dampeners on my hunting for a while as I waited for him to get gear ( he bought a Baikal 308 with open sites) and stuff. Time to get back to solo hunting so I've got a chance of getting something. Still he has learned to chip in with the boat chores and doesn't mind paying for gas, bait and burly etc... so not all bad