Thanks again @Pengy.
Well I believe they are the business, for cod they took a bit of getting used to but once we got used to the idea we were away, we squashed our barbs down, lip gripped the cod rolled the hook out and released them back into the tide, no handling at all, the were also good for spikies , stand on tail lip grip the bugger roll the hook out and over the side .. Though the spikies still twisted around trying to get you with their tail spike and one larger one broke loose of the grippers.
I believe they certainly have a place in the cod fishery , no handling of undersized cod is certainly going to increase the chances of survival. I don't by any means think they are a silver bullet but I do believe they will help.
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