New electronics?

Hi all, so i have a new boat with very out dated electronics...what am I going to replace them with?

I had pretty good Simrad stuff on the last boat but looking for other peoples thoughts and experience.

I'm after radar, Gps, and fish finder. More than likely going to be MFD which I would like the Volvo engine stuff to run through. Oh, I should add auto pilot.

Radar and GPS I find easy in the sense that the are what they are, plug and play (kind off), fish finders bugger me up....all the MDF's say they can do side scan and all the other things but, you need to buy a heap of other shit to get them doing that?

I don't need to be to clever with it all (because I'm not)... look forward to your thoughts.

We need pictures of the new boat.
Stuff that builds your own charts as you cover ground would be cool.

Ring ENL in North Shore Auckland. They do Furuno stuff. Great service and people.

Not the cheapest. Bloody good to deal with though.

I'm running a Raymarine Axion which seems to be a pretty good fishfinder and plotter thingie. I upgraded from a Lowrance HDS5 ( which I'm selling shortly ). Only changed as the 5 inch screen was too small for my eyes running a split screen.
My boat is too small to worry about a radar and autopilot

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Originally Posted by tac a1

Ring ENL in North Shore Auckland. They do Furuno stuff. Great service and people.

Not the cheapest. Bloody good to deal with though.

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This. Ask to speak to Earl. A good bloke and really knows his stuff.

@mikee

Garmin for gps easy operating system similar hand held furuno for sounders , should be a enl in nelson try to go 1kw capable even if only comes with a 600w transducer as your can update later .and gme for vhf as made for aus/nz no stupid us weather channels etc .

Budget??
At moment its not so much "what do you want" more what is actually on shelf or in the warehouse.
Almost everything we have is presold currently.

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

We need pictures of the new boat.
Stuff that builds your own charts as you cover ground would be cool.

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Yep that stuff is cool, and very $$$.
Yea, might get some photos up

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Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

I haven't got one, but apparently auto pilot save you a heap of gas. Quite surprising how much you diviate off course without one.

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I think if they are set up right they are good. I have also heard the opposite.

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Originally Posted by rugerman

I'm running a Raymarine Axion which seems to be a pretty good fishfinder and plotter thingie. I upgraded from a Lowrance HDS5 ( which I'm selling shortly ). Only changed as the 5 inch screen was too small for my eyes running a split screen.
My boat is too small to worry about a radar and autopilot

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Yep had a lowrance HDS 9 i think, loved it.

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Originally Posted by mikee

Budget??
At moment its not so much "what do you want" more what is actually on shelf or in the warehouse.
Almost everything we have is presold currently.

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Budget...more than I would like.
I have just found out that it has a Furuno FCV 295 which I believe is pretty top end, not sure what transducer though.
I was at ENL today and basically the only thing I would be able to walk out with is a 19inch TZT.
I haven't talked to Simrad about there stock items but I think I'm going to go Furuno more so because the fish finder is now going to stay. All really depends on the deal with the TZT19. If its ridiculous I will just hold off.

TZT19f is approx $16K retail for unit only not installed

Install.
If its a hardtop trailer boat or alloy "proper boat"you will need either the external GPS antenna or a Sat compass antenna with NMEA2000 starter kit
If a marina launch or similar and fiberglass or wood of you are not getting radar antenna then you may get away using the internal GPS

If you are adding radar and want chart overlay then Sat compass is only sensible option.

Installation cost is always additional.

If flush mounted then more expensive. If desktop mount make sure "mounting bracket" is included in your quote as its additional "option". Std supply is flushmount

FCV295 is the smaller screen commercial sounder, same features as FCV1150 but smaller screen and no bottom stabilisation feature.

got a picture of it??

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Originally Posted by mikee

TZT19f is approx $16K retail for unit only not installed

Install.
If its a hardtop trailer boat or alloy "proper boat"you will need either the external GPS antenna or a Sat compass antenna with NMEA2000 starter kit
If a marina launch or similar and fiberglass or wood of you are not getting radar antenna then you may get away using the internal GPS

If you are adding radar and want chart overlay then Sat compass is only sensible option.

Installation cost is always additional.

If flush mounted then more expensive. If desktop mount make sure "mounting bracket" is included in your quote as its additional "option". Std supply is flushmount

FCV295 is the smaller screen commercial sounder, same features as FCV1150 but smaller screen and no bottom stabilisation feature.

got a picture of it??

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At 16K I don't think I would be getting too excited, I was probably thinking around the 10K + gst, think I can get the 16inch for 8.5k + gst. Yep its all that extra shit you mention that pisses me off as you aren't informed about it.

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Originally Posted by screamO

At 16K I don't think I would be getting too excited, I was probably thinking around the 10K + gst, think I can get the 16inch for 8.5k + gst. Yep its all that extra shit you mention that pisses me off as you aren't informed about it.

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If it were me you were talking to then I would have made sure to mention it however I'm off for 2 weeks :D

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Originally Posted by mikee

If it were me you were talking to then I would have made sure to mention it however I'm off for 2 weeks :D

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Wanna come fishing?

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Wanna come fishing?

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Well i would .........but.........I'm chasing salmon on Rakaia, (well i would be if river hadn't come down dirty..) as far away from being able to be called in as possible.

there's nothing wrong with a FVC295. Thats what I'm running in my boat. It's the transducers which make the difference. The transducers in my boat (there's two of them) are a 200 khz unit and a 32khz. they are not cheap, but I can pick up bluenose in 330 m of water clear as a bell.

Its the quality of the transducers and the accuracy of the installation which will give you the results.

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Originally Posted by tac a1

there's nothing wrong with a FVC295. Thats what I'm running in my boat. It's the transducers which make the difference. The transducers in my boat (there's two of them) are a 200 khz unit and a 32khz. they are not cheap, but I can pick up bluenose in 330 m of water clear as a bell.

Its the quality of the transducers and the accuracy of the installation which will give you the results.

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Agree, I have always thought Furuno were at the top of the game when it comes to fish finders. I'm not sure what transducer has been installed but I'm hoping if the guy installed the FVC he wouldn't have skipped on the most important part.

To be fair, I don't even know how to read one...let alone find fish with them and I still to ok!

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Wanna come fishing?

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It is about time we had another wee trip.
Cant believe I pissed of everybody last trip.....who was there...@stinray @veitnamcam @Rocktoy no one has every talked to me since ...

@stingray

This Saturday @screamO ..tuna out off the islands ..bring the family …batch booked

Use the batch boat , bring VC he knows where the blue water is

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Originally Posted by stingray

This Saturday @screamO ..tuna out off the islands ..bring the family …batch booked

Use the batch boat , bring VC he knows where the blue water is

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Well, I have to say I was thinking about boating.
Was thinking about going up Friday afternoon with my 2 boys (10 year olds) and partner? happy to move things around if it works for everyone? @veitnamcam @stingray

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Originally Posted by screamO

Well, I have to say I was thinking about boating.
Was thinking about going up Friday afternoon with my 2 boys (10 year olds) and partner? happy to move things around if it works for everyone? @veitnamcam @stingray

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I wouldn't usually bother even asking but I better run it past the wife since I have been fishing the last 3 months and just got home, Friday will be my first day off in a while.

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

I wouldn't usually bother even asking but I better run it past the wife since I have been fishing the last 3 months and just got home, Friday will be my first day off in a while.

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Your sweet, what's a couple extra days

Turn on FCV295 while holding down menu Key.
When furuno logo appears take finger off menu button. Will open transducer installation menu.Take photo.
Change nothing!! turn off sounder to exit menu.
This will tell you what frequency the transducers are and also if furuno transducers the type number for example 200b-8b or 38BL-24HR

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Originally Posted by screamO

Agree, I have always thought Furuno were at the top of the game when it comes to fish finders. I'm not sure what transducer has been installed but I'm hoping if the guy installed the FVC he wouldn't have skipped on the most important part.

To be fair, I don't even know how to read one...let alone find fish with them and I still to ok!

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check the transducer model number. This will tell you how many Kw it is. If you want to do deep water stuff you need 1 kw. Like I said above its the installation which makes the difference.

Are you running one transducer or two??

Im really really liking my Simrad NSS EVO3s 16.

Hi all, thought I should put an end to this. Thank you everyone for your input.
So I ended up going with the Simrad setup for a few reasons;
I was looking at the Furuno as I was told I could get the existing FCV 295 running through a new Furuno touch screen (still not sure if I could or not, mixed opinions), so I took it as a no.
Furuno costings and availability weren't great. I'm very impatient and don't like waiting.
I decided I was happy to keep the FCV 295 as a standalone sounder.
Smirad pricing was pretty good and I had it all within two days of order.
Also had Simrad on the old boat, so at least I knew how to turn it on.

So I ended up with a NSS EVO 16 chartplotter, Halo radar, Ap44 Autopilot and the expensive thing that makes the autopilot work.
I also added a 3 in 1 transducer (cheap about $500) so that I could still have a sounder on the chartplotter for marking waypoints, etc.

Before
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After
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It took a bit of work just to remove some switching to make room for the screen, also had to move the steering.....actually we had to move everything.

Nice looking install, that is one of the hardest things to get right. I've done several, and retrofitting new gear into existing boats is not easy at the best of times and a royal pain in the arse at worst. Worst case is having to run a complete new supply and return cable through bits of boat that aren't accessible and include right angled cable runs...

One of the worst I did was a surveying vessel with the PC-based DGPS enabled scanning sonar system which was feeding a datalogger that then fed into a chart making program which consumed about a nuke power station worth of 230v power and contributed 1.5degC to global warming... Crazy stuff when it required an air con unit just to keep the computer working (stuff the humans).

That's a clean looking install though well done!