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Yup VC I tuned in with great interes all I can say I was fucking disgusted with the amount of wastage that has been created by dumping unwanted fish to avoid a heavy penalty.
I would love to see a reduction of catch from rec and com. Not sure how many of you fish out of Tauranga, but it has really turned to shit.
Couldn't agree more mate... For the entire region.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sniper
Its an unfortunate bycatch if you will of the cms.Quote:
Originally Posted by hunter308
If there is any change to the current system it will be on advice from you guessed it. The commercial sector.
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Ironic isn't it ,as far as most people seem to be thinking they're the cause of the decline in the fish stocks in the inshore fishery.So why don't we justly apportion blame & penalty reduction were its due & for the common good.Not for the benefit of the chosen few.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
Export dollars vs the kiwi lifestyle.
History doesn't bode well for the kiwi lifestyle.
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Or : Kiwi life style = votes
Don't think export dollars comes into the equation .
How did we get the current system? Don't recall voting on it.
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Maybe the system is now a dictatorship
Yep when you can have a referendum and still not do what the people want dunno what else to call it.
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Bullshit thats what I call it anyway!Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
But we are bordering on the verge of politics now.
Well it's clearly time for the public to revolt and rally for support and unity to demand change and accountability from parliament like we used to prior to the '90s. Obviously we're all waiting on tender hooks to see what Guy, National and MPI will come back with, but if they do need to be voted out in 2014, I fear the idiotic repetitious NZ public will vote sleazy Cunliffe and his Labour misfits in, again, rather than actually demanding a REAL change for the better. I don't yet know which party or mix that government should be, but I am adamant for the country I want, it ain't Labour and certainly not snake career poly Cun@lipssss as PM. Our options are super slim and we seem to be desperate for a moderate new centre party with enough quality candidates to win the support of the masses, yet I'm not seeing ANY party even looking close to having that credibility.
Our future:
Labour = State dependency and massive bureaucracy (high tax)
National = Corporate corruption and loss of civil liberty and quality lifestyle
And the border is breached.
Guys we need to try hard to keep the politics out of this topic if you do not want to see it locked out by the caretakers (please observe the no politics to be discussed rule). All we can do now is wait and see what MPI come back with and I for one am not looking forward to it at all.
Tomorrow night we find out the decision that the MPI has made today regarding the catch limits in SNA1 I hope it is not in favor of the commercial guys.
I wait with baited breath.
Bad pun
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It has been done our new catch limit is now 7 and size limit increased to 30CM, no change for the commercial guys apart from stricter monitoring. While I am happy with increase in size limit and a loss of 3 fish per person per day I am not too happy about the commercial sector not taking a cut in limit or increase in size limit thier size limit has been maintained at 25cm
Commerce must roll on! Hah, I feel extending the areas commercial fishers can fish should be done. We are missing an opportunity to have more reserves and more opportunity for tourism, 7 bigger fish is not all bad but a bit one sided
Ah well could have been way worse, 2 fish less and at 30cm there is nearly meat on them :)
I think the result sucks for you avid fisho's but are you sure you have lost 3 per day Hunter308?Quote:
Originally Posted by hunter308
Just watched the news..... Commercial guys have to throw trophy snapper back? Wtf use are they dead??
Gibo the big dead snapper will feed the sharks. the sharks will then grow bigger and stronger and eat a lot more snapper therby reducing their number further ...... oh hang on that doesn't fucking work ..... yeh Wtf use are they dead?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
25 is way to small and should have been lifted to 30 for rec anyway.
Lifting it for commercial would just result in more discard.
Hopefully the monitoring of commercial is actually effective and not possible to circumvent but i won't hold my breath.
As for the catch limit well 7 good snapper is enough imho but the cut is in the wrong sector.
Commercial fishing are catching our fish and making millions from it.
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ooops we are not all perfect bro have had numbers rolling through my head all day was bound to make a balls up somewhere lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
I'm happy with 7 per day at 30cm but feel the commercial guys should have their minimum size increased to the same.How much salable flesh do they get off a 25cm snapper ,that size would hardly be worth trying to fillet & then boneless it out you'd loose biggest part.
I think they should have a cut in quota & be kept out of the inshore fishery /spawning grounds .I think 3km would probably give the stocks opportunity to regenerate.
I caught 4 Sunday night around 5lb ,more than enough for myself. 7 is quite generous but an even playing field for commercial and recreational fishing would be fairer.
Still wont stop the rapist taking what they want
7 snaps is fair, and its good to see a increase to 30cm, although it would of been got to see the com guys get a cut.
At least there seems to be new conditions for the com guys, that they have to adhere to in the next few years.
Agreed Chris what use is keeping a 25Cm fish and trying to flog what is left of the fillets just a total waste of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
HAs that lettuce buggered off from you neck of the woods yet or is it still whiritoa that is giving the results.
Lettuce is still there Hunter but I can live with a big ball of weed on my sinker & a 5lb snapper attached to my hook. Poor old snapper getsworn out fighting the ball of weed & can barely flat when it comes onto the beach (3 out of 4 anyway) A sand shark as well Sunday night but only 1.4m long