up our way ( Coromandel) we get paralytic shell fish poisoning, and that regulates the shell fish take. Been there once and not again
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up our way ( Coromandel) we get paralytic shell fish poisoning, and that regulates the shell fish take. Been there once and not again
Time to start scallop farming?
It being tried in varying forms from suspended cages on mussel line ,to trying to get sole access to a large chuck of the okiwi bed. They even went to the effort to lay a wire boundary of "their feild" and having divers clear out star fish from their patch.
The was and I'm unsure if it is continued seeding of harvested comercial beds. Which was successful in part except for Tasman bay where the scallop spat and mussel spat was released in the same beds, then another attempt in Tasman bay but the bed it self is seems to be either toxic or so sedimented that the spat is being suffocated.
Golden bay also has also being a fantastic bed, the word was that they reseeded the bed after a harvest season, then we had a hell spring storm which saw the river mouth a k wide pumping silt all over the new scallops . This could have buggered the bed anyway.. So it's anyone's guess.
At present we stand in a circle all pointing fingers , blaming each other , forestry , dairying , comercial , amature, hell I've heard every argument, seen pine slash all over the boulder bank and Tahauna beach, talked to the firt blokes who tell me of the tons of the stuff they put on Hort and dairy farms beside the waimea river and tributes, I've seen the size and weight of comercial dredges that have being dragged repeatedly through Tasman bay , and I've seen charter boats take 20 fishos out and pull a 1000 scallops a trip. As well as boats that limit day after day ,weekend after weekend heaping there scallops into the freezer ...( hand up here I've done it myself), And have being asked to help full tickets written by Maori wardens to take 3,4,5 hundred scallops...
My suggestions ..
closed season this year , and next, possibly a third.
A scallop permit, one of seasonal license..to pay for bed seeding. ( I hate this idea as well ..as soon as you have a pool of money you get noses in the trough sucking up the $ producing fuck all. ) and which beds when etc it just becomes a bloody nightmare.
Comercial divers rather than dredging .. Expensive ..hell yes .. But they become a premium product and demand a price accordingly... Problems ..black market and people want to enjoy a product they have always being able to afford. So will not support a change in harvesting.
Forestry slash is mulched after harvesting, this happens by law overseas ... A personal bug bear, that slash piles end up in our water ways and on beaches. Yes an added cost to forestry but but there are teams working through the slash recovering fibre now so why not go the whole hog and mulch the whole damn lot.
Boat limits for amatures 100 scallops per boat.
Change of rec and comercial season to August when the fish put on weight rather than the thin ones we harvest in July.
Rant over ....just thoughts that's all.
Edit to add .. Seeding was quite successfull in the outer sounds , okiwi , and Waitata reach, my own personal attempts were not we had a bed that I and others worked over very hard for a couple of seasons it produced some fantastic scallops. Huge sweet clean meat., but we buggered it. I have on a number of times taken taken scallops from a shallow bed in fine sand / mud and hand placed them in this previously amazing bed ( but course sand but simalar depth) , with no success I wonder if the scallops cannot handle the change of sediment / current.
This also makes me wonder if the spat bring seeded cannot adapt the conditions they are placed in.
I see Guytons advertising fresh North Island scollops for sale.
Fishing rules app updated.
Larger area closed....basically the whole top of South.
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Never bought scallops before. Might have to now.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
I remember a mate in Haast had the biggest scallop shell I have ever seen and he was adamant it come from stewy island.
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I have bought them but before I had a boat and when the wife's friend worked for the scollop enhancement company so got good deals [emoji106]Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
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Season two! I do believe they are pushing the panic button. Expect a season three!
I usually get up once a year for a swim.Quote:
Originally Posted by stingray
Think I am alright with a 3 year closed season. Especially if it works.
Never struggled to find them tho in all the years I have been diving or dredging for them.
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Dredging should be banned imo, very destructive
Tend to agree. I don't own a dredge and don't know much about it always bluge off someone else when they go out😆Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
I can't see how dragging one along is any good for the bottom. Especially the commercial ones.
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Depending on the bottom type yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
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Nah, just all of them :D
I believe that there needs to be a seeding / enhancement programme along side closed seasons. If you have a skeleton biomass, then survival / recruitment of spat may only cover the die off for that year. They need to target beds that have being successfully enhanced in the past ...Goldenbay , out off Titarangi , not sure if Richmond or Kiutu were and yes okiwi, Tasman bay I'm hesitant about ..perhaps off the Glen in the sand at 60 - 80 ft /18-22 meters. In the Marine reserve at bark bay and off the Glen. But certainly not in the sludge in the middle of the bay. Out off Ruby bay and down by Adel Island where you have a settled firm bottom.This will give you a bio mass that is able to substain itself and increase due to the over all mass of spat being larger.
Hell even set up a give little page to fund it to gauge interest in seeing a programme like this undertaken. $1 for $1 with the government matching our commitment.
As an after thought, have the beds in these reserves ever being surveyed? There should be some sort of previous catch information for these areas and with them both being reserves for over 10 + years surely they would be an indicator of the actual situation weather it is fishing pressure or something else affecting the population.
Well folks ..I made a submission , a short season oct-dec( when the fish are in peak condition), limit of 5 per fisher 40 per boat. So we can get a feed and if it effects the bio mass they can close it again next year and to their credit MPI are taking what we are saying onboard but family ....no deliciousness this season!
Dear Stakeholder
The Minister of Fisheries, the Hon Stuart Nash, has decided to temporarily close the Southern Scallop fishery (SCA 7), including Port Underwood, from 15th July 2018.
While recent surveys have shown scallop numbers in the area are starting to increase, they still remain low. The closure provides a further opportunity for the scallop beds to recover to allow a sustainable fishery in the future.
The majority of submissions received during the consultation process agreed with a further period of closure. Submitters also agreed that when the fisheries re-open, significant changes will be needed to the fisheries management settings.
Fisheries New Zealand acknowledges iwi, community and stakeholder support over the last few years while the fishery has been closed, and recognises the closure continues to impact all who have an interest in the fishery.
Fisheries New Zealand is establishing a multisector group to work on an agreed view of when the number of scallops have increased sufficiently to allow harvesting, and the rules that will be necessary to ensure that any harvest is sustainable.
Results of new scientific research into the fishery will be available later in the year, and this information will be used to guide future management of the scallop fishery.
For more information about the closure and updates on the fishery see the Fisheries New Zealand website: Temporary closure of the Southern Scallop (SCA 7) Fishery | MPI - Ministry for Primary Industries. A New Zealand Government Department.
Stuart Anderson
Director Fisheries Management