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    Quote Originally Posted by Moa Hunter View Post
    Good effort ! Wish that Steel head had been introduced here. Supposed to be very strong epic fighters.
    Hey Moa hunter - depends who you talk to as to the sub-breeds, variants and types of trout that made their way to NZ. It's not as clean and clear as you may think...

    It is acknowledged that a number of Acclimatisation societies had delivered in the early days progeny (and multiple deliveries) from ova including those from the Umpqua river in the USA, which is a very Steelhead orientated and genetically linked fishery.
    NZ also has Tiger trout, Brook trout and there is even mention of a mis-labeled import that was released in the upper Waihou and tributaries that might possibly even be Cutthroat.

    So not as clear cut as you thought huh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpe Diem View Post
    Hey Moa hunter - depends who you talk to as to the sub-breeds, variants and types of trout that made their way to NZ. It's not as clean and clear as you may think...

    It is acknowledged that a number of Acclimatisation societies had delivered in the early days progeny (and multiple deliveries) from ova including those from the Umpqua river in the USA, which is a very Steelhead orientated and genetically linked fishery.
    NZ also has Tiger trout, Brook trout and there is even mention of a mis-labeled import that was released in the upper Waihou and tributaries that might possibly even be Cutthroat.

    So not as clear cut as you thought huh!
    It could also depend on what that old fellow up north released as well.....Saw an article in the press on him. Mostly canal fish. There's a articular name for them but it escapes me at the moment...

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    Quote Originally Posted by timattalon View Post
    It could also depend on what that old fellow up north released as well.....Saw an article in the press on him. Mostly canal fish. There's a articular name for them but it escapes me at the moment...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpe Diem View Post
    Hey Moa hunter - depends who you talk to as to the sub-breeds, variants and types of trout that made their way to NZ. It's not as clean and clear as you may think...

    It is acknowledged that a number of Acclimatisation societies had delivered in the early days progeny (and multiple deliveries) from ova including those from the Umpqua river in the USA, which is a very Steelhead orientated and genetically linked fishery.
    NZ also has Tiger trout, Brook trout and there is even mention of a mis-labeled import that was released in the upper Waihou and tributaries that might possibly even be Cutthroat.

    So not as clear cut as you thought huh!
    I agree that there were multiple species introduced here including mackinaw and the great Salmo Salar. But if there were proper Steelhead Rainbows we would have fish today that run to sea and return. I think that in the early days of our fisheries and game animal populations, people had a better handle on subspecies differences than today. People lived closer to nature and were much more in-tune and intuitive than we are today. A read of Linnaeus, Merriam and Darwin soon demonstrated this to me. So what I mean is that the people collecting the fertilised ova in the US would know the difference and would record the ova as SH or River type. It is possible that we had Steelhead released here but into a lake system with no ocean connection and so they died out from unsuitable habitat with the error being made at this end, but even then the English settlers were fully familiar with sea trout and Salmo Salar which have the same habits as Steel Head.

 

 

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