Steelhead

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Winter sheelhead gotta work for'em

Good effort ! Wish that Steel head had been introduced here. Supposed to be very strong epic fighters.

good eating ???

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Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Good effort ! Wish that Steel head had been introduced here. Supposed to be very strong epic fighters.

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They're just a rainbow trout that goes to sea like a lot of browns do here. So technically we do have steelhead, they just dont live anadromously

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Originally Posted by moosemeat

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Winter sheelhead gotta work for'em

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Nice. That's a spey setup you're running?

I caught a 3kg one the other night.

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Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

They're just a rainbow trout that goes to sea like a lot of browns do here. So technically we do have steelhead, they just dont live anadromously

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I wish we did have Steel head but we don't. There are records of the occasional rainbow being netted in the surf in NZ, but these are not steelhead.
As to our brown trout, we have three distinct sub-species and a hybrid. We have the river dwelling Salmo Trutta, the sea trout Salmo Trutta Trutta and the Loch Levin brown which is adapted to lakes. We also have a hybrid of the river and sea types which is what is commonly called our 'sea run' trout. Sadly and confusingly a few years ago all these subspecies were grouped together under the one name classification which is like putting all breeds of cattle under one single name and saying that because there is no genetic difference on their DNA they are the all same breed.

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Originally Posted by kiwijames

Nice. That's a spey setup you're running?

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Centre pin setup Kiwijames for drift float fishing, here its hard to fly fish no room for a back cast unless on some of the bigger rivers you see the spey and fly guys!!

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Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

I wish we did have Steel head but we don't. There are records of the occasional rainbow being netted in the surf in NZ, but these are not steelhead.
As to our brown trout, we have three distinct sub-species and a hybrid. We have the river dwelling Salmo Trutta, the sea trout Salmo Trutta Trutta and the Loch Levin brown which is adapted to lakes. We also have a hybrid of the river and sea types which is what is commonly called our 'sea run' trout. Sadly and confusingly a few years ago all these subspecies were grouped together under the one name classification which is like putting all breeds of cattle under one single name and saying that because there is no genetic difference on their DNA they are the all same breed.

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I think the Steelhead would do well there they like cold water streams to migrate up and give a hell of a response when hook, even more so than our domestic rainbow or brown trout just not a big fan of their table fare!

Ivr always understood our Rainbow are from impirted Steelhead stock.

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Originally Posted by Woody

Ivr always understood our Rainbow are from impirted Steelhead stock.

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Without looking it up, so just from memory I think ours are stock from the Sacramento River. It is possible for an anadromous stock to occupy the same river system as the river dwelling cousin but remain genetically apart because of different breeding behaviours

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Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Good effort ! Wish that Steel head had been introduced here. Supposed to be very strong epic fighters.

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Hey Moa hunter - depends who you talk to as to the sub-breeds, variants and types of trout that made their way to NZ. It's not as clean and clear as you may think...

It is acknowledged that a number of Acclimatisation societies had delivered in the early days progeny (and multiple deliveries) from ova including those from the Umpqua river in the USA, which is a very Steelhead orientated and genetically linked fishery.
NZ also has Tiger trout, Brook trout and there is even mention of a mis-labeled import that was released in the upper Waihou and tributaries that might possibly even be Cutthroat.

So not as clear cut as you thought huh!

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Originally Posted by Carpe Diem

Hey Moa hunter - depends who you talk to as to the sub-breeds, variants and types of trout that made their way to NZ. It's not as clean and clear as you may think...

It is acknowledged that a number of Acclimatisation societies had delivered in the early days progeny (and multiple deliveries) from ova including those from the Umpqua river in the USA, which is a very Steelhead orientated and genetically linked fishery.
NZ also has Tiger trout, Brook trout and there is even mention of a mis-labeled import that was released in the upper Waihou and tributaries that might possibly even be Cutthroat.

So not as clear cut as you thought huh!

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It could also depend on what that old fellow up north released as well.....Saw an article in the press on him. Mostly canal fish. There's a articular name for them but it escapes me at the moment...

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Originally Posted by timattalon

It could also depend on what that old fellow up north released as well.....Saw an article in the press on him. Mostly canal fish. There's a articular name for them but it escapes me at the moment...

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Coarse fish

WA smooth marron - see https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/11884...ands-waterways