Al lot of it comes down to how one is setting the cast up too imo. My bro in law that I have boat fished with for years freaked me out when we went surf casting, he was unaware of what I consider the basics. Line roller at the back near rod, finger takes the slack - not holding it against the rod, these two things alone can take a cast from ok to all goodStance is the biggest thing when you get decent at it, like swinging a bat
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