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with he purchase of my new boat, i am looking at moving into deeper waters and having a go at some groper/puka, what is a good reel/rod that wont break the bank? i dont know the first thing about deep water/game/jig reels so any info is helpful. i only have a crappy okuma rod and reel which i use for cod and terakhi etc.
Fin-Nor biscayne BLD 20 and fin-nor 24kg stand up game rod $450 plus shipping from full on fishing if you want to spend more then the fin nor marquesa combo from fishing and outdoors will be another good option.
If i was you id get a jigging set up. Tbey hold hundreds of metres of braid so can do both.
Whats your budget etc
i was looking at doing this but i wasnt sure if it was a good idea tho. i was looking at maybe upto $500 or something like that, less is always better but i dont want to be too cheap and end up with shite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
Yeah man its the go. Look around on trademe for a decent jigging set up for your price range. Il try find some and post the links for ya.Quote:
Originally Posted by silentscope
At the end of the day you will have about 300m of 37kg braid so hitting puka is on. The rod wont be as stiff as you would have on a dedicated puka set so you will be working a bit harder. If thats not an issue then its a win win.
awesome, cheers that sounds like the go then
Just had a look and not much for 500 at the mo. Those fin nor marquesas are ok, i have one, was a prize. Dont think id 'buy' anything but shimano though. I'll keep an eye out
Jig Set Tica Seawave and Kilwell rod | Trade MeQuote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
i v been looking, think that would handle the abuse those kingis dish out?
Never used one. I would look for a lever drag though. The star drags havnt been great for me on jigging sets.
I brought 2 Accurate BX500s and stuck them on JigStar 250s.
Brought them for Jigging Kingis but in reality they get used for everything and I mean everything. Mine stays in the cupboard unless fishing deep or chasing tuna, kingis or bottom bouncing but the missus uses "hers" for everything incl blue cod fishing :)
If the fishing in HB was not super shit I would buy this exact combo.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikee
Braid sure gives a big advantage with lots of capacity but the drag and gears in smaller cheaper reels will not live up to the higher loading.
Fin Nor were the reels you dreamed of, now a lot of outsourcing to Asia has made the name not so mythical. Mind you I have a small fixed spool I picked up in the US and it has been fine.
For the bucks I'd look at Shimano reels, not their rods. There have been a few Accurates for sale on the other side worth a look.
what about a spin reel combo? i like them cus you can cast a popper etc with them, but are they alright for groper etc?
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Originally Posted by silentscope
ok didnt think so.
Why not?Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwijames
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ok didnt think so. i looked at those accurate rods etc they look pretty good so might go into the local shop and see what theyre like in handQuote:
Originally Posted by kiwijames
They are just not made for it. Not enough spool capacity for deep stuff and typically high gear ratios for fast retrieves. Sure you could use one but you won't see a commercial boat ever use one. A fixed spool reel with enough balls to winch up half ad pound of lead plus a 30kg fish (who usually doesn't want to) is not really an option (considering what else is available).Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
Ok just see the Matt Watson and big angry fish payed advertisements using them.
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Also why do they use bloody great long rods for big fighting fish? makes more sense to use a shorter powerful rod for more leverage to me.
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Not seen the ad but my guess is the fish in the ad will a pelagic (kingi, tuna, billfish)? No great need for large capacity, plus you can always chase with the boat if it starts looking close.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
The rod often needs to be a compromise. Long rods are good to get you line around, over or to where you want. Puka fishing though needs little finesse and a broom handle will suffice.
Agree with the practicallity issues of puka fishing with an egg beater but your statement about capacity (if you mean line capacity) is bollocks. Diawa saltist dog fight gets 500m of 37 easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwijames
Wow that's huge. 37kg braid or nylon? Never been a big user of fixed spool but I knew they have really beefed up a few top end ones. Is the Saltist up there with the likes of the Shimano Stellar? Still winching up 500m of line with a eggbeater sounds like little fun to me. Winching fish in general is fucking boring anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
Sorry bro, saltiga not saltist :(Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwijames
Agree that winching fish is boring. I dont bother much anymore. Rather scrap out a kingi. I was on the receiving end of a good lesson when puka fishing out a mayor one day. Got dam near dragged over when fishing at 300m deep, had me fucked for 1hr 55mins, get a hundy take a hundy and so on. Then the circle hook let go :( Never saw it but the hook when we looked at it was now a dull gray and the other was still shinny and new. I suspect it was hooked in somethings gut as there were rub marks on the trace 500mm either side of the hook! Good knows what it was but it was a demon :thumbsup: Bout the only fun ive had puka fishing.
Have seen one with 500m of 37. Yes they are same or more than a stella :D
Daiwa New Saltiga Dogfight 7000
I wish we had worthwhile salt water fishing in HB. I was spoilt living in the Mount as well as a few overseas locations. I used to love going to the Mayor , especially when it was free. We had some good nights there. Diving Tuhua on the way home was cool. You were often the Pied Piper with a procession of rat kingis following you around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
Most of the charter boats going out for Puka would use the Daiwa SL900. Ugly but bullet proof. Good cost effective option.
@Proudkiwi also had a nice setup for sale at a great price too.
Fuck that forum is ugly! What a shit colour and layout :O_O:
You have just seen "the other forum" that we refer to :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Gibo