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    Question re titles

    Im doing a little research on A potential access point down a river bed. But the title situation has me confused.


    Anyone know what this means?

    [QUOTE]This parcel has no title associated with it.
    Parcel Intent Fee Simple Title
    Statutory Actions

    Statutory Action
    Section 62(1), Conservation Act 1987
    Type Statutory Vesting
    Recorded Invalid Date
    Action Referenced
    Status Current
    Statute Section 62(1), Conservation Act 1987
    Purpose Conservation purposes
    Name -
    /QUOTE]

    As I read it, there is no title , so no owner, It mentions conservation purposes but is not shown on Doc site as public land. Also not shown as access or public land on WAMS.

    Linz has this to say re the category of land.

    [QUOTE]DOC Allocation Plans
    Land or foreshore is deemed to be held for conservation purposes under s 62(1) of the
    Conservation Act 1987 if:
    (a) immediately before the commencement of the Conservation Act 1987 it was State
    forest land or Crown land; and
    (b) it was not forest sanctuary, forest park, ecological area, or wilderness area; and
    (c) it is land that the Minister, and the Minister responsible for the department or agency
    of State that then had control of it, have agreed should be held for conservation
    purposes; and
    (d) it Is identified for the purposes of this section on plans lodged in the office of the
    Chief Surveyor for the land district in which the land or foreshore is situated (being
    plans certified as correct for the purpose of this section by that Chief Surveyor),
    Under the environmental restructuring in the 1980’s, Ministerial committees allocated land
    formerly managed by the Lands & Survey Department and the Forest Service to the
    Department of Conservation (DOC) and State-Owned Enterprises (SOEs). Such allocations to
    DOC are taken to constitute agreement for the purpose of (c) above.
    The ‘plans’ referred to in (d) comprise marked up cadastral record maps (NZMS 261), with
    accompanying schedules. These plans have been given SO plan numbers.
    Due to the wide spatial coverage of each SO plan, it can be difficult to find the relevant plan
    number in Landonline’s spatial record of the parcel fabric. The SO plans are therefore listed
    below in relation to each Land District and NZMS 261 sheet number. The LINZ data service
    (LDS) p/QUOTE]


    My question is, Is there any reason I can't use it for access?
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    Conservation purposes does not restrict access unless the Minister deems such under special conditions. DOC have a wonderful way of refusing access which sometimes means you need to got to court.

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    What does the WAMS outfit's website show?

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    my reading yes its access its crown land not held in private title

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    Quote Originally Posted by No.3 View Post
    What does the WAMS outfit's website show?
    Nothing. There is a couple of paper roads either side, but they are out in paddocks, and as legal as it might be to use them, im not interested in any potential confrontation or negativity.
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    In that case, I would use your preferred access and if challenged ask if they (I assume the land owners either side) would prefer you use the paper road???
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    Contact your regional field advisor: https://www.herengaanuku.govt.nz/adv...field-advisors

    If they don't know, they'll find out.
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    No title issued does not mean nobody owns it. There will likely be an old gazette notice listing recording when the statutory vesting took place by the Minister. You can search the gazette notices online but they only go back so far.
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