Hi has anyone been up the Takapari road 4x4 track in the Manawatu recently? Is it accessible yet. I think it has been rutted out and had a slip or 2 come down in the last year or 2 but i just want to know if you can get a 4x4 past yet
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Hi has anyone been up the Takapari road 4x4 track in the Manawatu recently? Is it accessible yet. I think it has been rutted out and had a slip or 2 come down in the last year or 2 but i just want to know if you can get a 4x4 past yet
I'm sure the road has actually been shut at the moment? I heard DOC was trying to get the army engineers involved in the repair etc....
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Originally Posted by Sika 8
What? Both of them and their one D4;)
Seriously, there's precious little left of capability with our NZDF at the mo. I assume DoC are attempting to get another Govt dept to pay for what is considered their role, in maintaining access into Public lands.
Depts are good at dodging. The suburb we are in has a dead end paper road that goes nowhere...so the developer connected a walkway to the other end so it could become a loop. He then offered to plant it out as a tree / bird lane ot disimilar to a residential park...Coucil dept in charge of the paper road administration said 'Easy, thats good, we can transfer it over to parks for them to look after" Parks replied "No way...we dont need more work..." so it stayed a paperroad albeit a loop of sorts now....so no one mows it (apart from the neighbouring farmer if it gets long enough to bale...) And the coucil has done it once when they were advised it had becomea fire hazard to the neighbouring properties......No one wanted to look after it so while they could have had free landscaping and planting of trees, they missed ut and have simply got a long narow public access paddockQuote:
Originally Posted by XR500
DOC had a D4 when it first started 1987 - it was at the old Minginui Forest Service Workshop - I wonder what happened to itQuote:
Originally Posted by XR500
It’s parked next to the workshop at the old millQuote:
Originally Posted by Barry the hunter
Or it was in 1987
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Got one up here, mid repair. Great sized dozer.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmsaum
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I visited a few weeks ago and it’s stuffed not far past the airstrip/DOC boundary. You would need a serious bush truck and winch to get up the huge rutted drop off. There is a side track but huge ruts and guranteed panel damage plus winch needed. The track will need serious digger time and rock to fix.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennJ
That photo doesn't do it justice
As above it's practically impassable
Its many moons now, but i took the old WB holden ute up to A-Frame hut one day, was a bit tough with a 3 speed, on the one steep section and we had to hit it with speed, to clear the top after smoking the clutch the 1 attempt.
Also took a couple kayaks, part way up and dragged them down the ridge, to the Pohangina river, and over the waterfall.
Hope they fix it, a great axcess to digger and forks area, and the fricken leatherwood.
That's a shame to see. I push biked that road on a three speed a few years after it was dozed in (1970 ish). It was in beautiful condition, as you would expect. Water tables all lovely graded etc.
This is what happens when you do no maintenance for 20-30 years. DoC: how about laying off throwing squillions at helo and poison businesses, and chuck a grader over these access roads once every three years or so???
The road has had maintenance on it over the years fairly regularly, the problem is the 4x4 clubs that go up there on mass convoy and deliberately tear up the road & the surrounding areas along side the road.Quote:
Originally Posted by XR500
A couple of years ago a community group took on the project of doing up the old "A-Frame" hut at the top of the road, all of them volunteers and they did a really great job of turning a structure that was buggered into a nice clean hut that would actually be nice to stay in.
With in 3 months it had smashed windows and graffiti again, and some muppet decided he could drive his quad bike up and over the hut judging by the tyre marks on the iron.
I get that all users of the park have just as much right as any other park user to be there..... but sometimes common sense isn't as common as we'd like and a few will ruin it for the rest of us.
Yeah its been kept reasonably tidy to be fairQuote:
Originally Posted by Sika 8
I'd have to disagree with the 4x4 clubs comment though.
The 4x4 club took traps up there after being asked to buy Mauri oho, that is all.
The damage has been done buy fuckwits in there lifted surfs and old rangers who think 4x4 drivers
We had the wetest winter on record and still they thought it was fun to destroy the track.
Personally I think the road should be shut.
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Yeah I guess I should replace the word "Club" with "groups" I've personally seen a convoy up there 20+ strong and assumed it was a club, perhaps it was just a large group of muppets.
100% be some book face 4x4 group, all they do is fuck it for everyone elseQuote:
Originally Posted by Sika 8
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Its a bit harsh to assume that because the road is closed, that access is denied. You can still walk up there, via the road if there's car parking handy to the gate, or from the eastern side at Tamaki.
And you wont be bothered by hoards of 4 Wheel Drivers. Because the roads closed.
Like Nomans area to the north, without a Big Hill vehicle Access permit, your still able to walk from the Comet road via Shutes Hut or up the Golden Crown track to the East.
Just leave the Steak and eggs at home in favour of lighter fare :oh noes:
I saw that damage too , there are some total-idiots out thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Sika 8
Kind of was one of my ideas I had for the roar. To drive up there and take a few luxuries like a chillybin and bbq for a couple of days. Bit sad to see the state of things.
Dont mine to odd rut or 2 which keeps the urban ford ranger drivers out because I've got a fairly capable vehicle. But might give this one a miss and stick to what im used to and use my feet
Crikey, last time I went up there I took my quad but that doesn’t even look like it’s worth the effort on a quad now. Bloody shameQuote:
Originally Posted by Forestry
Anyone aware if a two wheeler would get up here at present?
still shut down from my understandings
Yeah I walked up a couple weeks agoQuote:
Originally Posted by Dublin
I hour from the tamkai road
Had definitely been 2 wheelers in there as far as the hut
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Whats the condition of the hut now?
Tidy and sleep able if your court out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sika 8
Shes no Ritz
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Even when it was new it was only really a shelter.
I can only remember it in its Forest Service Orange color. New District plan must have required neutral colors to stop it clashing with all the neutral colored ice and slush and frozen leatherwood up there:omg::omg::omg:
The back country trust did it up a few years ago and some dannevirke locals did the paint job.Quote:
Originally Posted by XR500
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It’s becoming passable… with the right gear
Some people have no understanding of why the FS used that Orange.
It was literally a life saver for some.
DOC can be just as bad.
Pennyless
Arseholes! Ruin it for everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by dvk-kp
How?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dundee
Because stuff like that's how the road got so fucked in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by dvk-kp
This used to be easy access to mountain bikers and less mobile hunters, plenty of other places for 4wds to rip shit up rather than what was a nice public road.
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Takapari road was constructed in 1972-73 by the then NZ Forest Service, bulldozed in by a mates dad in his D8. It was built to permit....wait for it..... mass planting of Pinus Contorta, in a vain attempt to control erosion in all those steep gully heads. The A frame was built as a rudimentary shelter/base for the NZFS tree planters to base themselves from.
Since it was constructed on Public land by the then land manager (NZFS) it never became gazetted as a public road. So the Regional Council has never been burdened by its maintenance. It has fallen to the NZFS, then DoC to maintain it. We all know how that ends.
I used to push bike it in the late 1970's and then later hunt it from my little 2 stroke Suzuki Jimney in the mid 1980's. In the NZFS days there was always evidence of the grader having been there every year or so.
It was well constructed back in the day, heavily crowned, culverts, runoffs etc etc but sadly it has received little to no love from DoC in the past 30 years. Hence it has fallen to pieces.
4WD's will have added only a bit to the demise of Takapari road. When you are up there and experience a Spring deluge you have to see it to believe it just how much shingle gets moved in 24 hours. Add 20-30 years minimal maintenance, culverts, runoffs block up, crown not maintained and the rest is history.
As a side note my mates Dad had contracted to the NZFS for that project. When he had completed the road he asked for his dozer to be backloaded to his base in Dannevirke(??) . They told him the low loader was in use for the next month, we'll pick it up after that. He had other jobs lined up for the dozer, so just drove it North along the main range a bit, then took the best looking ridge and drove down the ridge to hit the stream a km or two downstream of Stanfield hut, and trundled down the stream to the road end. Try doing that today:omg::omg::omg:
You can still see that line down through the bush when you no were to look from the ridge in our place,Quote:
Originally Posted by XR500
The road was done up around 2015 roughly from memory it was really good, now days not so much.
You posted a picture once of the suzuki up there.
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Yes, it was a tad chilly. 2 inches of ice on all the puddles from memory. Deer were all well down off the tops that Winter!
I thought that group was very good at making minimal impact, keeping wheel spin down, winching when revs would have got them thru, even putting in some decent spade work to try make the track better. They could have had 35” simexs at full noise and destroyed it, guess I just watched it with a different mindset. Most of that damage is from water flowing down the track, maybe Cyclone Gabriel?Quote:
Originally Posted by BRADS
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Originally Posted by dvk-kp
Water flowing from 4wds making ruts, .don't get me wrong mate I'm a 4x4 club member with a bush truck and competitor in 4x4 trails series in a D class truck
We often open our farm up for just this sort of thing
I just believe in time and place, and my opinion is that's not it.
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