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    I agree with your attitude and position Tussock - consideration with regard to language/content is certainly desireable.

    If I may add some old-schooler's thoughts - it is important to differentiate between what's ok in a public bar, and what's acceptable in a public domain such as this national and international website.

    I link with this site because it is a New Zealand Hunting and Shooting Forum. Important to note 'New Zealand' because it will attract not only kiwis throughout the country, but international viewers also. It is good to present with care as do other nations' sites eg rimfirecentral, marlinowners, leverguns etc. If people wish to vent language/dope detail etc, private blogs are appropriate for that, or perhaps the NORML site.

    Further, its important to realise this is specifically a Hunting and Shooting site, that it carries no necessary freedom of swearing and dope discussion etc purpose - and it shouldn't. And here I'd make a point - after 50 years hunting, competing etc I am happy to confirm that lots of swearing, dope talk, pushing social boundaries etc adds precisely zero to your shooting skills, hunting skills, or ability to learn. Zero. It is not required to be a competent kiwi hunter. One shooting team I currently belong to has past club/provincial/NZ champions in it - men very capable on range and in field - but you actually don't hear much swearing. It is simply not necessary to be a good hunter/shooter, and its not appropriate in a public forum attracting women viewers, kids, overseas guests etc.

    I agree with the call for reasonable self-restraint in speech and content on this public site - setting a reasonably positive and acceptable culture. Its what we do in clubs etc., and as a matter of common sense it's generally self-moderated. I can swear with the best of them esp if I drop and ding a new rifle as I did recently - could have been heard in Rarotonga - but public domain is different. Remember - the core business for this site is hunting and shooting discussion, and excessive bad language/content is neither necessary nor desireable for that. It adds nothing of value at all, and as such isn't a right worth supporting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tussock View Post

    Having said that, another plan is in the works, which should see everyone happy. As you said Mudgripz there is a difference between and pub and the public, but no reason we cant have both We will see what we can come up with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudgripz View Post
    I agree with your attitude and position Tussock - consideration with regard to language/content is certainly desireable.

    If I may add some old-schooler's thoughts - it is important to differentiate between what's ok in a public bar, and what's acceptable in a public domain such as this national and international website.

    I link with this site because it is a New Zealand Hunting and Shooting Forum. Important to note 'New Zealand' because it will attract not only kiwis throughout the country, but international viewers also. It is good to present with care as do other nations' sites eg rimfirecentral, marlinowners, leverguns etc. If people wish to vent language/dope detail etc, private blogs are appropriate for that, or perhaps the NORML site.

    Further, its important to realise this is specifically a Hunting and Shooting site, that it carries no necessary freedom of swearing and dope discussion etc purpose - and it shouldn't. And here I'd make a point - after 50 years hunting, competing etc I am happy to confirm that lots of swearing, dope talk, pushing social boundaries etc adds precisely zero to your shooting skills, hunting skills, or ability to learn. Zero. It is not required to be a competent kiwi hunter. One shooting team I currently belong to has past club/provincial/NZ champions in it - men very capable on range and in field - but you actually don't hear much swearing. It is simply not necessary to be a good hunter/shooter, and its not appropriate in a public forum attracting women viewers, kids, overseas guests etc.

    I agree with the call for reasonable self-restraint in speech and content on this public site - setting a reasonably positive and acceptable culture. Its what we do in clubs etc., and as a matter of common sense it's generally self-moderated. I can swear with the best of them esp if I drop and ding a new rifle as I did recently - could have been heard in Rarotonga - but public domain is different. Remember - the core business for this site is hunting and shooting discussion, and excessive bad language/content is neither necessary nor desireable for that. It adds nothing of value at all, and as such isn't a right worth supporting.
    I agree with every word here.
    I joined up fairly early, posted a few times but got sick of the childish "Look at me, I'm a hunter, I can fart and swear and nobody can stop me. Nana, nana, nah, nah!." attitude.
    Now I just come in and look to see if things have changed but they haven't so I don't bother logging in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by graybeard View Post
    I agree with every word here.
    I joined up fairly early, posted a few times but got sick of the childish "Look at me, I'm a hunter, I can fart and swear and nobody can stop me. Nana, nana, nah, nah!." attitude.
    Now I just come in and look to see if things have changed but they haven't so I don't bother logging in.
    While I agree with your sentiment, It's not that bad here. You seem a little hung up on it. Stay a while, I'm sure you'll be fine

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    Moderator = nana in a skirt
    Caretaker = nana in long pants
    Call yourself whatever you want, it still boils down to the same thing.
    Which is worse, ignorance or apathy...I don't know and don't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spook View Post
    Moderator = nana in a skirt
    Caretaker = nana in long pants
    Call yourself whatever you want, it still boils down to the same thing.
    Practically every forum on the planet has some form of moderators, because people aren't mature enough to moderate themselves.

    We're just trying to buck the trend. Mudgripz nailed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh View Post
    Practically every forum on the planet has some form of moderators, because people aren't mature enough to moderate themselves.

    We're just trying to buck the trend. Mudgripz nailed it.
    That is a very true statement everyone's perception of acceptable and unacceptable content is different so therefore it is difficult to self moderate and this is where the brain needs to be put into gear and think about stuff before you say/type it I know I have to think about what I say alot so I am not misunderstood or inadvertently causing people to be offended or getting myself in to trouble by what I say. It is good to have moderators that police the content on the forum they are responsible for as it keeps everything above board and there is nothing wrong with getting a bit of an oi if you step over the boundaries.If we had no rules then all kinds of debauchery could break out and that would not be a good look for the forum. It is also good that the people who run this forum do not get too carried away with their position unlike some other places I have seen where some of the mods let it go to their heads, I know I have not been here long enough to see the powers that be in action but what I have seen so far actually makes me want to read the threads on this site.

 

 

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