Dropped a spiker a few years ago with a 22 magnum in the ear 15 meters away standing side on, dropped him dead, used 30 grain Winchester ammo , any one used similar or 17 Hmr ect
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Dropped a spiker a few years ago with a 22 magnum in the ear 15 meters away standing side on, dropped him dead, used 30 grain Winchester ammo , any one used similar or 17 Hmr ect
Shot my first 2 sika with a .22 mag while out hare shooting near Waiouru. Shot 20-30 deer with a .22 while doing possums over the years. I will be building a .22 K hornet shortly. No doubt a few bigger animals will see the mean end of that.
dropped a fallow spiker at a bit over 100 with the .17hmr. Been covered on many forums threads on other forums etc, any calibre can kill a deer, some just give you a bit more "room for error"
the 204 has accounted for a few as well, only head shots
Yea the old man is a 22mag fan,hes shot plenty with it but then he has had a few cock ups too. He takes his 3006 in the roar;)
Shot my 1st deer with a 22mag, and plenty since..all within 20 metres. Critical that shot placement is perfect. 223 is my go to do everything calibre now.
never shot deer with a 22mag but It deals to the goats.
Shot plenty of goats with .22 and gutted a few other with 3006, .22hornet was good as well but lacked the range, my mate had a .222 so he got more than me!
Fully agree, as ethical hunters we owe it to our quarry to ensure as quick and painless death as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmwsm
Actively hunting medium game with rimfire calibres is completely irresponsible in my view.
It's not about bravado, it's about opportunity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudattack
I don't skip around gayly thru the tussock looking to shoot deer with a .22 or the like but if I can see the buggers swede inside 50 yards when carrying one and I need an animal, it gets it.
I back myself to clean shoot a deer with anything at that range. It doesn't care if the projectile is doing 3000 fps or 1200 fps when snotted in the head or neck.
I didn't mind the cash they lined my pockets with either.
The OP asked a question he didn't say its common practise for him.
I personally can't see a difference when taking a clean shot what cal is used.
I have shot a shit load of deer with a .223
Spose that's irresponsible as well?
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Spiker I shot last Month was shot with a 22 whilst out possum shooting. Have shot a couple of deer with my 22k Hornet both 1 shot kills. Like R93 says don't go out intentially to shoot deer with the smaller calibres but if it happens it happens.
Whats the difference between me shooting a deer with a 22 mag, and a number of home kill butchers that I know of shooting a cattlebeast with a 22 mag??
I was responding to 7mmwsm's post, which is why my post says ACTIVELY PURSUE.Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
I come from a culture where these things are severely frowned upon, fair chase and using enough gun are drilled into you as part of ethical hunting, so no offence intended.
Personally i wouldn't use a 223 for anything bigger than a goat, but each to their own.
I'm not offended at all. I have and will continue shoot animals how I please. We all have different standards and ethics and if they work for us individually that's all good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudattack
I personally think shooting an animal in the nut with a .22 rim or centerfire inside 50yrds is way more ethical than blasting away at them at ranges where atmospherics and things out of your control are a given.
I can guarantee the meat butchers and tastes better as well.
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I agree, not a fan of shooting game out past 350ish either (also comes into the whole fair chase/is it hunting or shooting debate)Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
Happy to play at 1km on the range though for a bit of fun.
Not having a go at you re the .22, yes they will kill a deer, but probably not the best thing for a novice hunter reading this to be trying (let alone a .17) and great ammo for the antis to grab off a public forum.
My point is what if something goes wrong? With a cattle beast it runs around the yards a bit till you can give it another one. A deer you will probably never see again.
Totally agree. We all need to know our limitations and employ them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudattack
I have a young son just starting out hunting.
He turned down his first thar that he was perfectly capable of taking because he was unsure. He has set his standards. He will grow into some new ones as he gains experience.
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Why does everyone always say "what if it goes wrong", in regards to taking animals with "inferior chamberings" you say it like things cant go wrong with a bigger calibre, they can go just as bad. What if you hit a deer in the nose with a 308, will be the same result/possibly worse than if you hit it in the nose with a .22. Facts are if you no your gun and your abilitys shooting deer with a 22/17/22mag etc is perfectly fine, no two levels of dead, dead is dead mate. I dont think you will find to many people actively pursuing deer with those calibres as it does limit you to what shots you can take. Same thing can be said for bow hunting, if you fuck the shot no matter what your weapon/calibre of choice is it aint going to end well for the animal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudattack
Its like people put the majestic and elusive deer on a high pedestal, many people seem to have no problem experimenting shot placement, distance etc on goats but when it comes to the almighty deer suddenly its a different story :D
Well goats don't feel pain
Sure, i agree, in the same way as the exponents of small calibres always decide that those using a bigger calibre suddenly stop caring about shot placement!Quote:
Originally Posted by PerazziSC3
I am not a huge fan of headshots either for the fact that they move so much and jaw shots are always possible.
A shot that creases the skull with a small calibre probably won't drop it and it will still be at full running health, a centrefire will render it unconscious.
I don't advocate bad shots on any species, even possums get head or chest shots.
Fixed it for ya :DQuote:
Originally Posted by gimp
We feel it, we just enjoy itQuote:
Originally Posted by ebf
Yeah good point and that is typically quite true also (about people assuming that if you use a big magnum you dont care for shot placement)Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudattack
Im not an advocate for small calibres, i would much prefer to take my wsm out hunting then the 243, even take the 9.3 out sometimes.
Was just saying that if i do come across a deer that i want to eat and i have a rimfire with me and the shot presents its self, im going to shoot it, i no the calibres limitations.
but the question on the thread was can you shoot reds with a 22mag or 17 etc, answer is YES, quite effectively.
Should you shoot deer with a 22mag? as r93 said we all need to know our limitations and employ them.
I should really clear one thing up.
I do, at times, skip gayly thru the tussock.
My rifle is always in the scabbard on my pack when doing so. Gotta be safe while skipping.
Don't wanna have a wee woopsy should I miss a skip.
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I would pay money to see you skip.Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
Ha Ha you wanker, you have witnessed my lack of co-ordination, so doubt my skipping ability.Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwijames
If someone starts me off I can maintain it for a minute or so till I get tangled up.
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Ekkkkkk 22 Magnum on deer :wtfsmilie: I sold my 22 hornet after neck shooting a goat at 100 yds with winchester factory ammo & had it run off screaming with a shallow splash wound. In perfect conditions I probably would but my personal imposed minimum calibre choice is 223.
anything is better than a bow...even shooting at 350m
explain?Quote:
Originally Posted by sakokid
Your joking right? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by sakokid
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.17 HMR, .22 mag/LR capable of downing deer?
Yes.
Ideal?
No.
man we could talk about this all night. I myself would not use a 22mag on deer. yes it could drop a deer, but that's what I have got my 7mm for. save the 22mag for possums, hares, rabbits, and the odd goat.
One of the yarns my old man brought back from Africa was of an elephant poacher who was shooting them with a .22lr, he would wait for the beast to step forward with the front leg an pop one through the soft skin into a major artery and follow it till it bled out...
That poacher must've had bigger balls that the elephant to follow up a wounded one :ORLY:
I have heard that story too, although the version I heard was it was an experienced PH doing it as a bet, think it may be a bit of an urban legend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barefoot
Karamoja Bell however did shoot and kill over 1000 elephants with a 7x57 Mauser with military ball ammo, do believe he wounded a shitload too!
Its in one of a very popular African hunting writers books of a boy downing a elephant on the spot with a very lucky 22lr pill down the ear canal.
Not recommended from memory he got a hiding from the old man.
The suggestion was to get feedback on anyone who actually stalks deer to within 20 meters don't get bitchy if you ain't in the club and don't like the bush hunting, handle it
Iv shot deer with 22lr 222 223 243 etc etc
Not knocking it but dont recommend it.
Allways wanted to touch a wild deer, got to within a hairs breath of slapping a hind two years ago close enough? I have seen fawns wild on public land I could probably have picked up but growing up on a deer farm knew to leave them the hell alone.
How many times could you have shot this humanly with any type of firearm?Quote:
Originally Posted by lloydcj
I was carring a 308 of course and she wasnt on the menu.
Hind in NZ native forest. - YouTube
if you touch deer and write it on here the anti touch the deer tards will re school you on morals.............bunchof fucking high and artificially mighty cocks on here at times!.......were hunters......we kill.........ethicly or not its a dead aninal and there is a miss or gut shot just waiting to happen no matter what caliber .......keep that in mind.
I thought the discussion was carried out quite calmly with some good points on both sides, the point of a forum is to discuss different people's opinions and views.
Sorry, didn't realise that expressing your opinion was getting high and mighty, will keep that in check in the future.
Only now afer 37 posts has it started to get a bit insult slinging.
lloydcj your original post said stuff all about enjoying bush hunting, to come and say that now is ridiculous.
Carry on boys, 22s on scrub bulls sounds great! :thumbsup:
It trust many hunters out there having an oppurtunity present itself within 50 yards, a rimfire rifle in hand, would give it go (hopefully they know there rifle and own capabilities). In saying that probably not the best to encourage Joe Blogs to pick up his $50 plinkster and venture off into the Fiords to take down a Wapiti Stag.